I doubt that would stop it much.  I know for me at least I have a boss that
has to sign my timesheet and will not sign off on any OT without someone
else handing him a paper saying they have the budget to pay for it.  I also
know that his boss has since my move from salary to hourly been trying to
find a way to move me under him and make me work the OT without the pay in
some manner.  At the moment I am a person that has knowledge of 3 different
fields all highly technical and all in short supply.  My boss does not want
to lose me because he can just tell me to drop the computers and work on
another project without anyone being able to say a thing.   He is a rarity
in State Government work let alone University work.

Jon

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:48 PM, John Hornbuckle <
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>  I suspect that if more of us were hourly, weeks would rarely exceed 40
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: So, Why Do We Do It?
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> John, I know for me it is that in 1 year, 10 months, and roughly 2 weeks I
> get to retire and go work for a company that will hopefully pay me better or
> not treat me like dirt simply because I try and save a bunch of (l)users
> from stupid mistakes.  I am also tired of the after hours work for nothing
> other than the management will not allow me to do it any other way and the
> "but you were not authorized to work those hours" from managers that told me
> to get the job done but not disrupt anyone else's work schedule.  I also
> know for me the overtime stopped for the most part when I went from salary
> to hourly.  Now the managers have to sign off in advance of any OT work of
> any form.  I still get emails and calls asking for me to fix something on my
> time off and I just refer them to my boss, I actually just forward the email
> to my boss or if they do accidentally get me to answer the phone I tell them
> to talk to him, he makes the rules.  I have never gotten a second request
> and my junior has messed up a couple of times so no one asks him for
> anything more than something simple, but then he has been very good at
> hiding when there is work to be done anyway.  I also get to work hours that
> for me mean I have to deal with the users a lot less, and makes the managers
> stew a bit more, but my supervisior actually likes my hours.  I work 3 11.5
> hour days and one 7 hour day.  On days with more than 8 hours I am suppose
> to get a half hour for lunch but usually just stay in my office and ignore
> the phone.  I also am at work a 4 am on my work days and since most of the
> staff don't usually get in until about 9 most of my day is done.
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> I was recently talking to a technician who works for a company we sometimes
> hire for projects. He's salaried, but working just 40 hours in a week is
> pretty rare for him.   Looking at the poll in another thread and how many of
> us are basically on call 24x7x365 for no additional compensation, I have to
> ask… Why? Why, as a profession, do we allow ourselves to be treated this
> way?
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> Is it that the pay is just so good that it's worth it? I know a few folks
> on this list have indicated that they get compensated pretty well, but my
> sense is that most of us just earn average pay and aren't living the high
> life. I'm not really sure why. We have skills that are in high demand, and
> take years to develop. Why are we selling ourselves short?
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> Personally, my pay is just so-so. For the area I live in (poor, rural, and
> with a low cost of living) it's decent, and I do work in the public sector
> rather than private—that's always going to hit you win the wallet. But I
> generally get to make up the extra time with time off, a long lunch, maybe
> going in late or going home early. Plus I get vacation and sick leave that's
> pretty generous by American standards, and participation in the state
> retirement system. So all in all, I can't complain much.
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> But I know a lot of people who work in the private sector for pay that's
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> John Hornbuckle
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> MIS Department
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> Taylor County School District
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> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
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