There is a difference between saying you like the OS/hardware integration and 
saying that you can run Photoshop 5x faster on a Mac whilst having 2x as many 
applications open. The former is subjective. The later belies belief because 
these days it's the same hardware underneath.

Cheers
Ken

From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 19 December 2008 9:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Anyone VM a Mac Leopard OS on a PC?

Because the value of the whole is more than the sum of its parts.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, TJ 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The fact that I can run Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, and Illustrator at the 
same time makes ME feel like it's more optimized.  I can also run Firefox with 
15-20 tabs open at all times, plus my mail client, my FTP client, some utility 
apps, a chat program, etc

What are you talking about?  I do this NOW!  On a PC, circa 2001, 2G of RAM and 
I see no major problems at all!   Really.  I am not understanding this.

I'll tell you my experience with a friend at a Mac Store....  This is a 
mid-40's year old business man who runs a very successful business - he's no 
dope.   He walks over to a Mac and begins going through the menus, the 
programs, opens up apps and clicks around a lot - keeps saying "isnt this 
cool?" and I just let him go on and on.  I probably heard "isnt this cool" 
about 1/2 dozen times before I looked at him and asked "isnt WHAT cool?   What 
EXACTLY is cool John?"  and with that, he looked at me and said "forget it.  
you're just dont understand".

Well, he's right!  I DO NOT understand.   If I did that with my PC, he'd think 
I was psycho or something.

This is what I dont get.  The machines are the same.  The hardware is the same. 
 The components are the same.  The MEMORY is the same.

Ah, forget it.  I've got work to do.


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Eric Brouwer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The fact that I can run Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, and Illustrator at the 
same time makes ME feel like it's more optimized.  I can also run Firefox with 
15-20 tabs open at all times, plus my mail client, my FTP client, some utility 
apps, a chat program, etc.  All at the same time.  Never even a slight 
hesitation in performance of any kind.  I can barely run DW and PS together on 
my PC.

I LIKE PCs.  Like the majority of us here, I make my money ON and WITH PCs.  
For my network administration stuff, I use an IBM ThinkPad running Vista.  I 
even defend Vista.  I don't have a fraction of the problems the masses like to 
report.  It's a decent OS, in MY opinion.

BUT, I enjoy the Mac experience a great deal more.  Physics aside, yes, I do 
think the Mac "moves 1s and 0s" around faster.  If you want me to say it, I'll 
say it.  I PREFER the Mac experience to my Windows experience because of it's 
performance.

How is my defense of Macs, saying their optimized, less accurate than the 
statement that they're simply generic white boxes?

And I didn't realize Mac was the only OS burdened with updates.  I could have 
sworn I've had to run updates on my PC once or twice in the past.




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