Call it a "private cloud" if you wish. But if you connect to it over the Internet - I consider it "a cloud thing".
The DIFFERENCE is in your last sentence. If your property is seized from your physical location, then "you" (the corporate "you") are the one being investigated. If your property (whether by rental, lease, or ownership) is seized at a data-center, "you" are not necessarily the one being investigated. I believe the term is "collateral damage". Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of "The Cloud"... How is "co-lo" a "cloud" thing? You have a specific box, in a specific rack, in a specific location. There is no amorphous unknown involved. Hmm, it could even happen to servers you have sitting in your own corporate data centre - law enforcement turns up and seizes some servers and then some of your apps are offline. Law enforcement seizing too much stuff is the problem. Not so much where you put it (which has its own considerations - including jurisdictional issues) -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of "The Cloud"... I would suggest that every example you mentioned is, indeed, "a cloud thing". Shared web hosting, VPS, colocation - all of those are cloud solutions - we just didn't used to call them that. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Be Very Wary of "The Cloud"... Hmm - is this a "cloud" thing? I mean, people have been paying for shared web hosting for years. Or more recently Virtual Private Servers, or even dedicated servers. If law enforcement turns up and seizes 'x' racks of equipment, chances are that there are going to be innocent bystanders who are going to be affected. Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2011 9:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Be Very Wary of "The Cloud"... This is how the FBI treats something in the cloud. Remember that when you trust your important data to the cloud. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/f-b-i-seizes-web-servers-knocking-sites-offline/ Note: I don't support the activities of any hacking group. I just think this was wrong. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
