Anoop,

As I said in one my earlier emails, if new encap proposals are not
converging on resolving issues, why don't we just live with existing encaps
like VXLAN etc? Why would making these RFC'es is important by standards
body, when it is about business rather than technical ones?

Backward compatibility, extensibility, security, etc., issues are very
important and the degree vary depending on whom you ask, for ex: operator
to vendor, software to hardware. That is whole new discussion and beyond
this thread, but those are the reasons for not reaching rough consensus.
(Ref: mailing list and summary)

I personally do not think WG should just *stamp RFC for drafts because of
business reasons.

-sam

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Anoop Ghanwani <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Sam,
>
> My lack of interest in a new encap is because I think it's too late to
> converge them.  At this point, there are business issues (as opposed to
> technical ones) that would limit the effectiveness of a new encap.  At best
> it's a no-op, at worst it creates even more confusion in the market while
> the other encaps continue with their deployment.
>
> The best that the IETF can do is at this point is to document these and
> make sure the encaps are not breaking something else.
>
> IMO, none of the objections raised are showstoppers.  Any encap can be
> modified to do anything we want it to do, with the exception of backwards
> compatibility.  The need, efficacy, and the price of backwards
> compatibility can be argued, so that advantage is not a slam dunk either.
>
> Anoop
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Sam Aldrin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Anoop,
>>
>> <WG chair hat off>
>> Couple of questions, if I may ask
>> 1. How do you plan to address technical objections raised?
>> 2. Not interested because it is too late and would rather live with any
>> deficiencies in the DP proposals?
>> </WG chair hat off>
>>
>> -sam
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Anoop Ghanwani <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, no rough consensus emerged from the list discussion.
>>>>
>>>> The chairs and our AD have also been trying to form a design team to
>>>> take forward the encapsulation discussion and see if there is potential to
>>>> design a common encapsulation. However, there has been insufficient
>>>> interest in this initiative. We would like to hear opinions and
>>>> confirmation or disagreement on interest in creating a DP encapsulation
>>>> that addresses the various technical concerns.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have little interest in yet another encap.
>>>
>>> Anoop
>>>
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