Hi Paul,

Fine excuses but $1 is a winner because it is easy way out and adds
profit. As if the profit isn't high enough in NZ.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Sid,
>
> Prepay customers who want to speak to an operator pay $1/call. I'll
> happily argue the case for this because the simple matter is that we've
> reduced calls to the call centre by more than 60%. That means that when
> you call and you do have to speak to an operator, you can in a timely
> fashion. We were having people ring up to ask how to turn up the volume
> on their phone, how to change their ring tones, how to charge up their
> phone and just for a chat because they were lonely. Most of the services
> they were calling about could be solved using self service (either
> online or using the touch tone process on the phone). That all added up
> to horrendous waiting times for callers who did need a customer rep's
> help. The $1/call is a winner.
>
> We do have an 0800 number - 0800 021 021 - but if you're calling from
> your mobile you're better off ringing 777 because the system recognises
> you and it speeds things up.
>
> Again, I'll add you to the list of those that would prefer to receive a
> PDF in an email form.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> Paul Brislen
> External Communications Manager
> Vodafone New Zealand
> 021 721 337
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Sid Bachtiar
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:49 p.m.
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Let me put it simply.
>
> It is not nice to require your customer to login to get their invoice.
> It is more acceptable to send them email with PDF attachment. It might
> be legal, but your customers will hate you for it.
>
> Just like requiring customers to pay to call help desk to ask why the
> hell is the online survey for redeeming the $10 bucks not working? Oh,
> no 0800 number either?
>
> Sid
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sid, not sure I understand where you pay us for the TXT. If we send
>> you a TXT you don't pay for it... The TXT will include your due
>> amount/date.
>>
>> Or have I misunderstood your point?
>>
>> I'll take your suggestion as another +1 for the emailing of PDFs.
>>
>> And if you want a longer/even more off the PHP topic discussion on
>> Vodafone, feel free to email me directly or post something on the
> forum
>> (http://forum.vodafone.co.nz) where such things are more on topic. I'm
>> happy to answer questions here, though, so long as nobody minds.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul Brislen
>> External Communications Manager
>> Vodafone New Zealand
>> 021 721 337
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Sid Bachtiar
>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:28 p.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I guess there are few/many issues around VF customer service in the
>> last few while. But I'm not going to go with my own rant. I've been a
>> loyal VF customer since 10 years ago, but I'm getting disappointed
>> with the current trend. Anyway ...
>>
>> Back to the off topic, if we pay you by sending you a SMS that says
>> you have to login to a website and click and stuffs for every invoice,
>> you wouldn't like that would you?
>>
>> It's about courtesy to people you have the privilege of doing business
>> with.
>>
>> I think sending an email invoice with PDF is acceptable these days
>> because you don't have to do extra work. It is really like sending
>> invoice by post without the paper. But sending SMS and requiring
>> people to do extra work to pay their bill IS NOT acceptable.
>>
>> Is it too difficult for VF to develop an invoicing system that sends
>> email with PDF attached?
>>
>> Just my 2c
>>
>> Sid
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Does 'provide' equal 'post' or 'send'?
>>>
>>> Paul Brislen
>>> External Communications Manager
>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>> 021 721 337
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:09 p.m.
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair Trading Act
>>>
>>> "If you supply goods and services to another registered person, you
>> must
>>> provide a tax invoice within 28 days of the purchaser asking for one.
>> Not
>>> to supply one after such a request is an offence and you may be
>> charged
>>> penalties."
>>>
>>> =K=
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:02:46 +1300, "Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for top posting... if I could make Outlook work the way I
>> want
>>>> (or just make it go away) I'd be a happy man.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback to me (email is good or start a thread on the Vodafone
>> forum:
>>>> http://forum.vodafone.co.nz) and I'll put it in the strongest terms
>> when
>>>> we review how it's all going.
>>>>
>>>> As for finding the thread - one of You pointed it out to me. I like
>> to
>>>> get involved in as many discussions on Vodafone as I can find
>> (Twitter,
>>>> Geekzone, GPForums, PressF1, NZNOG) but I've sorely neglected my
>> groups
>>>> so I do apologise. Feel free to fire any/all Vodafone related
>> comments
>>>> to me... it keeps me employed and I can avoid writing press
> releases.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Paul Brislen
>>>> External Communications Manager
>>>> Vodafone New Zealand
>>>> 021 721 337
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Gold
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 3:58 p.m.
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Vodafone and their new invoicing policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Brislen, Paul, VF-NZ
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll find a link or similar and post it here re: legality of
>>>> sending/not
>>>>> sending an invoice. As I understand it there is no requirement to
>>>>> physically move an invoice from one place to another in the legal
>>>>> requirements and putting it online is acceptable but I'll find you
> a
>>>>> reference for it.
>>>>
>>>> Much appreciated Paul.
>>>>
>>>>> As for sending an email containing the PDF, the short answer is no
>>>> we're
>>>>> not doing that but we are considering it. I for one would strongly
>>>>> recommend we do offer that service but as the service hasn't even
>>>>> launched yet the team are waiting to see what the response is like
>>>>> before making any changes. I can understand that.
>>>>
>>>> Put me down as a +1 for electronic delivery.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have contact details for "the team" to send feedback?  Or
>>>> should that be on the letter explaining the new system? (I'm working
>>>> from home today and the letter is at the office.)
>>>>
>>>> Just out of interest, how did you stumble across this thread?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> -----------------------
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>>>
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> -----------------------
>> Have you seen our website?.... http://www.vodafone.co.nz
>>
>> Manage Your Account, check your Vodafone Mail and send web2TXT online:
> http://www.vodafone.co.nz/myvodafone
>>
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>>
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>>
>
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> Have you seen our website?.... http://www.vodafone.co.nz
>
> Manage Your Account, check your Vodafone Mail and send web2TXT online: 
> http://www.vodafone.co.nz/myvodafone
>
> CAUTION: This correspondence is confidential and intended for the named 
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> Unless otherwise stated, any views or opinions expressed are solely those of 
> the author and do
> not represent those of Vodafone New Zealand Limited.
>
> Vodafone New Zealand Limited
> 20 Viaduct Harbour Avenue, Private Bag 92161, Auckland 1030
> Telephone + 64 9 355 2000
> Facsimile + 64 9 355 2001
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