Natcoll often consult with people within the industry. I believe that some handsome mohawked chap recommended that they start introducing their students to MVC frameworks such as CodeIgniter ;)
I don't think that it's a case about teaching language x or y. It's about encouraging passion about the industry, teaching people how to teach themselves and teaching general programming ideas without being so tied to a specific language. NZ has way more dot-net devs than jobs thanks to the education system here, and most end up on help desks and in generic IT roles. The dot-net and Java devs come out of education knowing only how to do their niche, and pretty much only when supported by large infrastructures and corporate software licenses. Berend: I've been doing PHP for 12 or 13 years, but only 5 of that has been commercial. And the first 5-7 years was certainly not what I would consider to be commercially acceptable. However, I did recently do a code review on an outsourced project (contractors in Russia and Sri Lanka) and it looked like High Schooler PHP so maybe anything is commercially acceptable these days if it's cheap enough. Kind regards, Keri Henare --------------------------------------------------- [e] [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) [t] @kerihenare [w] kerihenare.com (http://kerihenare.com) [m] (+64) 021 874 552 On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 at 3:16 PM, Mike Little wrote: > We interviewed a really nice guy this morning that did his study at NatColl. > They taught the CodeIgniter framework there interestingly enough. > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM, David Neilsen <[email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > Waikato University is not that bad. More than half of my colleges are from > > Waikato University. > > > > The Waikato Polytechnic touches on PHP (3 papers as far as I can remember), > > but not in nearly enough detail to get a super star out of it. > > > > All that gets taught is how to make a web page. No OOP, no ORM, no routing, > > etc etc. > > > > All the super stars I know were that way before they even started studying. > > They program for fun, before during, and after work/study. > > > > David Neilsen | 07 834 3366 | PANmedia ® > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Berend de Boer <[email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > "Stephen" == Stephen Shkardoon <[email protected] > > > > > > > > (mailto:[email protected])> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen> (maybe Wheedle got their devs from Waikato?). > > > > > > Nope, they were from India, and most likely this was their first web > > > project. > > > > > > -- > > > All the best, > > > > > > Berend de Boer > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Awesome Drupal hosting: https://www.xplainhosting.com/ > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > > > To post, send email to [email protected] > > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > > To unsubscribe, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > (mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]) > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "NZ PHP Users Group" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > > email to [email protected] > > > (mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]). > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > > -- > > NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > > To post, send email to [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > To unsubscribe, send email to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]) > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "NZ PHP Users Group" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected] > > (mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]). > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > -- > MIKE LITTLE > Director of Development > > > > > > DIGITAL MEDIA AGENCY > www.littlegiant.co.nz (http://www.littlegiant.co.nz) > > 3F / 47 High St, CBD, Auckland 1010, New Zealand > PO Box 1904, Shortland St, Auckland 1010, New Zealand > DIRECT +64 9 551 6959 ext 303 MOBILE +64 21 966 562 > > All work completed by Little Giant Design Limited is boundby our terms and > conditions. 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