I think he might mean that a programmer should try to become a self-directed learner as much as possible, as one cannot always rely on working in a place that engenders a learning-oriented culture.

On 31/01/13 09:42, Mike Little wrote:
"I have just found it hard to get my foot in the door as a junior within a place were knowledge can be shared and my learning can be continued"

Steve get your CV to us mate. That is exactly our environment - we look to carefully guide our junior developers. Our current developers have learnt a hell of a lot in the last year and a half. And they get to drink heaps of beer on Fridays!

Not sure where you are coming from Anru - sharing knowledge is pretty key in our office - we want everyone to be on the same page.


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:36 AM, anru chen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


     "were knowledge can be shared and my learning can be continued.",
    good lucky.
    for a computer programmer you have to learn at your own. want
    other people tell you what to do ? no way.
    anru
    On 30 January 2013 16:18, JZMWebdevelopment
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Steve goes over the top to get the best out of his students
        and it pays off as most other places you can study web are
        still teaching tables etc but within what I taught and have
        continued to learn has been a challenge but its slowly paying
        off.  I have just found it hard to get my foot in the door as
        a junior within a place were knowledge can be shared and my
        learning can be continued.


        On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:10:07 UTC+13, Brenda Wallace
        wrote:

            I've hired some smart ones by going to natcoll and
            watching a class.

            On Jan 30, 2013 3:16 PM, "Mike Little"
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                We interviewed a really nice guy this morning that did
                his study at NatColl. They taught the CodeIgniter
                framework there interestingly enough.


                On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:07 PM, David Neilsen
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    Waikato University is not that bad. More than half
                    of my colleges are from Waikato University.

                    The Waikato Polytechnic touches on PHP (3 papers
                    as far as I can remember), but not in nearly
                    enough detail to get a super star out of it.

                    All that gets taught is how to make a web page. No
                    OOP, no ORM, no routing, etc etc.

                    All the super stars I know were that way before
                    they even started studying. They program for fun,
                    before during, and after work/study.

                    David Neilsen | 07 834 3366 | PANmedia ®


                    On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Berend de Boer
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Shkardoon
                        <[email protected]> writes:

                            Stephen> (maybe Wheedle got their devs
                        from Waikato?).

                        Nope, they were from India, and most likely
                        this was their first web
                        project.

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