I am curious to see if pushed hard how many useful widgets can be built quickly using the Widget SDK. The University of Amsterdam had one student write 4 widgets in quick order including a Spreadsheet widget and an Exhibits widget. Widget building could be a nucleation point for contrib effort outside the core team. If you want to build a wider community this is an effective place to quench an initial thirst. Good also for Proof Of Concepts.
http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/ http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/widget/handsontable-spreadsheet-tool http://www.simile-widgets.org/exhibit/ Alan Alan Berg Group Education and Research Services Central Computer Services University of Amsterdam ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Clay Fenlason [[email protected]] Sent: 24 September 2012 00:44 To: oae-dev Subject: Re: [oae-dev] Assignment and Gradebook for OAE I think one has to separate the project vision from how it is trying to respond to a dramatic loss of contributing partners. When you go from 6 contributing organizations to 2 in a matter of weeks, you have to make decisions that cut to the bone. The loss has been severe, but the silver lining is the hope that better success might be found with a tighter, narrower focus. The pivotal question remaining: is there enough value in what's already been produced that it's worth continuing to invest resources to build from that core, even if it's not going to displace our LMS any time soon? Put in other terms, is there a smaller product that is both viable (assuming much less contributed resource) and yet still valuable for learning? This is what the team is working hard on now. Speaking just for myself, and Georgia Tech's perspective, it's still our aim that the OAE support assigned work and the ability to provide feedback (including that specialized kind of feedback that comes in the form of grades). We still see a path for seeing those realized, and haven't given up on them. But I think it's no longer on anyone's radar that the OAE will replace the CLE. Whatever collaboration rallies around it, I think it will not be on those terms. ~Clay On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Clay, > > Thanks for your reply. In my opinion, Assignment and Gradebook are two most > important features for LMS. OAE's no native support for those two features in > the near future sort of confuses me about the vision of this product. Will > OAE eventually replace Sakai 2.x? Or OAE is designed for something else? > > Thanks, > > Harry > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote: > >> I think it's fair to say that there hasn't been significant progress >> in this area, while the project has lost many of its contributing >> partners in the last couple months, and the focus of the work of the >> remaining small team will not bring new assignment and grading >> features in the months ahead. We're pressing ahead with making the >> most of the novel capabilities around content in support of learning, >> but the introduction of LMS-like features for course management are >> now at least greatly postponed, and the future is uncertain. >> >> I don't want to be discouraging, but I do want to caution you away >> from any expectation that these features are just around the corner. >> >> ~Clay >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I asked about the native support for assignment and gradebook in OAE in May >>> and want to know whether there has been any major progresses in this area. >>> >>> I saw a session by Sam and Nicolaas on this topic in this year's Sakai >>> conference >>> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/JCON/2012-06-11+Sakai+OAE+-+Tasks,+Assignments,+Grading+and+Unstructured+Feedback >>> >>> Sam and Nicolaas: any update on this? >>> >>> Any information about this is greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> On May 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Harry Wang wrote: >>> >>> Hi Nate and Clay, >>> >>> Thanks for your replies. I think I will try the hybrid setup for the pilot. >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Clay Fenlason >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The OAE can't be used as a standalone course management system, and >>>> you won't see a native gradebook tool or support for assignment >>>> submission workflows by September (although features to support >>>> assignment activities are on the nearer side of the roadmap [1]). >>>> >>>> Schools in pilot are supporting these functions with a CLE integration >>>> (using Basic LTI) that embeds CLE tools within OAE pages [2]. Some of >>>> these tools are being reskinned for the 1.3 release, so they look like >>>> a more natural fit, though there are still barriers to sharing content >>>> and grades, e.g.: assignment attachments cannot be submitted from the >>>> OAE library to the CLE assignment tool (widget) >>>> >>>> So you essentially need to support these functions, in the interim, >>>> with siloed 3rd-party tools. >>>> >>>> ~Clay >>>> >>>> [1] https://oae-community.sakaiproject.org/content#p=ker9TYL5aa/Sakai >>>> OAE Roadmap >>>> [2] https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/jKSCB >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We are planning to do a small pilot of Sakai OAE at the University of >>>>> Delaware in this fall semester. In my opinion, the two most important >>>>> missing features are assignment and gradebook if OAE is used as a course >>>>> management system. I wonder whether someone can give me an update on the >>>>> development plan for those two components. Will they be available before >>>>> the >>>>> fall semester (September) starts? Any information is greatly >>>>> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> oae-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev > > _______________________________________________ > oae-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev _______________________________________________ oae-dev mailing list [email protected] http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev _______________________________________________ oae-dev mailing list [email protected] http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev
