Thanks, Nicolaas. I am looking forward to the investigation results.
Harry On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Nicolaas Matthijs wrote: > The remaining project team is currently investigating and testing various > options. We've set ourselves a September 30 deadline for this investigation, > and will be communicating results, plans and directions right after that. > > The team is taking this investigation very seriously and all of the available > time is taken up by it, so we appreciate your patience and understanding for > the lack of public communication so far. > > Kind regards, > Nicolaas > > > > On 24 Sep 2012, at 11:07, Steve Swinsburg wrote: > >> Does the OAE rewrite into node.js affect the widget SDK? Is that just a >> proof of concept or the next actual version? >> >> https://github.com/sakaiproject/Hilary >> >> Cheers >> Steve >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 24/09/2012, at 19:27, "Berg, Alan" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am curious to see if pushed hard how many useful widgets can be built >>> quickly using the Widget SDK. The University of Amsterdam had one student >>> write 4 widgets in quick order including a Spreadsheet widget and an >>> Exhibits widget. Widget building could be a nucleation point for contrib >>> effort outside the core team. If you want to build a wider community this >>> is an effective place to quench an initial thirst. Good also for Proof Of >>> Concepts. >>> >>> http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/ >>> http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/widget/handsontable-spreadsheet-tool >>> http://www.simile-widgets.org/exhibit/ >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> Alan Berg >>> >>> Group Education and Research Services >>> Central Computer Services >>> University of Amsterdam >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Clay Fenlason >>> [[email protected]] >>> Sent: 24 September 2012 00:44 >>> To: oae-dev >>> Subject: Re: [oae-dev] Assignment and Gradebook for OAE >>> >>> I think one has to separate the project vision from how it is trying >>> to respond to a dramatic loss of contributing partners. When you go >>> from 6 contributing organizations to 2 in a matter of weeks, you have >>> to make decisions that cut to the bone. >>> >>> The loss has been severe, but the silver lining is the hope that >>> better success might be found with a tighter, narrower focus. The >>> pivotal question remaining: is there enough value in what's already >>> been produced that it's worth continuing to invest resources to build >>> from that core, even if it's not going to displace our LMS any time >>> soon? Put in other terms, is there a smaller product that is both >>> viable (assuming much less contributed resource) and yet still >>> valuable for learning? This is what the team is working hard on now. >>> >>> Speaking just for myself, and Georgia Tech's perspective, it's still >>> our aim that the OAE support assigned work and the ability to provide >>> feedback (including that specialized kind of feedback that comes in >>> the form of grades). We still see a path for seeing those realized, >>> and haven't given up on them. >>> >>> But I think it's no longer on anyone's radar that the OAE will replace >>> the CLE. Whatever collaboration rallies around it, I think it will not >>> be on those terms. >>> >>> ~Clay >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Clay, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your reply. In my opinion, Assignment and Gradebook are two >>>> most important features for LMS. OAE's no native support for those two >>>> features in the near future sort of confuses me about the vision of this >>>> product. Will OAE eventually replace Sakai 2.x? Or OAE is designed for >>>> something else? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it's fair to say that there hasn't been significant progress >>>>> in this area, while the project has lost many of its contributing >>>>> partners in the last couple months, and the focus of the work of the >>>>> remaining small team will not bring new assignment and grading >>>>> features in the months ahead. We're pressing ahead with making the >>>>> most of the novel capabilities around content in support of learning, >>>>> but the introduction of LMS-like features for course management are >>>>> now at least greatly postponed, and the future is uncertain. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to be discouraging, but I do want to caution you away >>>>> from any expectation that these features are just around the corner. >>>>> >>>>> ~Clay >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I asked about the native support for assignment and gradebook in OAE in >>>>>> May >>>>>> and want to know whether there has been any major progresses in this >>>>>> area. >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw a session by Sam and Nicolaas on this topic in this year's Sakai >>>>>> conference >>>>>> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/JCON/2012-06-11+Sakai+OAE+-+Tasks,+Assignments,+Grading+and+Unstructured+Feedback >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam and Nicolaas: any update on this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any information about this is greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Harry >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Harry Wang wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Nate and Clay, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your replies. I think I will try the hybrid setup for the >>>>>> pilot. >>>>>> >>>>>> Harry >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Clay Fenlason >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The OAE can't be used as a standalone course management system, and >>>>>>> you won't see a native gradebook tool or support for assignment >>>>>>> submission workflows by September (although features to support >>>>>>> assignment activities are on the nearer side of the roadmap [1]). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Schools in pilot are supporting these functions with a CLE integration >>>>>>> (using Basic LTI) that embeds CLE tools within OAE pages [2]. Some of >>>>>>> these tools are being reskinned for the 1.3 release, so they look like >>>>>>> a more natural fit, though there are still barriers to sharing content >>>>>>> and grades, e.g.: assignment attachments cannot be submitted from the >>>>>>> OAE library to the CLE assignment tool (widget) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you essentially need to support these functions, in the interim, >>>>>>> with siloed 3rd-party tools. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~Clay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] https://oae-community.sakaiproject.org/content#p=ker9TYL5aa/Sakai >>>>>>> OAE Roadmap >>>>>>> [2] https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/jKSCB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are planning to do a small pilot of Sakai OAE at the University of >>>>>>>> Delaware in this fall semester. In my opinion, the two most important >>>>>>>> missing features are assignment and gradebook if OAE is used as a >>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>> management system. I wonder whether someone can give me an update on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> development plan for those two components. Will they be available >>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> fall semester (September) starts? Any information is greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> oae-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev > > _______________________________________________ > oae-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev
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