Hi Steve, I was not aware of the Hilary project, which seems to be very interesting - any more information on this project besides the readme from Github?
Thanks, Harry On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:07 AM, Steve Swinsburg wrote: > Does the OAE rewrite into node.js affect the widget SDK? Is that just a proof > of concept or the next actual version? > > https://github.com/sakaiproject/Hilary > > Cheers > Steve > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 24/09/2012, at 19:27, "Berg, Alan" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am curious to see if pushed hard how many useful widgets can be built >> quickly using the Widget SDK. The University of Amsterdam had one student >> write 4 widgets in quick order including a Spreadsheet widget and an >> Exhibits widget. Widget building could be a nucleation point for contrib >> effort outside the core team. If you want to build a wider community this is >> an effective place to quench an initial thirst. Good also for Proof Of >> Concepts. >> >> http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/ >> http://oae-widgets.sakaiproject.org/widget/handsontable-spreadsheet-tool >> http://www.simile-widgets.org/exhibit/ >> >> Alan >> >> Alan Berg >> >> Group Education and Research Services >> Central Computer Services >> University of Amsterdam >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: [email protected] >> [[email protected]] on behalf of Clay Fenlason >> [[email protected]] >> Sent: 24 September 2012 00:44 >> To: oae-dev >> Subject: Re: [oae-dev] Assignment and Gradebook for OAE >> >> I think one has to separate the project vision from how it is trying >> to respond to a dramatic loss of contributing partners. When you go >> from 6 contributing organizations to 2 in a matter of weeks, you have >> to make decisions that cut to the bone. >> >> The loss has been severe, but the silver lining is the hope that >> better success might be found with a tighter, narrower focus. The >> pivotal question remaining: is there enough value in what's already >> been produced that it's worth continuing to invest resources to build >> from that core, even if it's not going to displace our LMS any time >> soon? Put in other terms, is there a smaller product that is both >> viable (assuming much less contributed resource) and yet still >> valuable for learning? This is what the team is working hard on now. >> >> Speaking just for myself, and Georgia Tech's perspective, it's still >> our aim that the OAE support assigned work and the ability to provide >> feedback (including that specialized kind of feedback that comes in >> the form of grades). We still see a path for seeing those realized, >> and haven't given up on them. >> >> But I think it's no longer on anyone's radar that the OAE will replace >> the CLE. Whatever collaboration rallies around it, I think it will not >> be on those terms. >> >> ~Clay >> >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Clay, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply. In my opinion, Assignment and Gradebook are two most >>> important features for LMS. OAE's no native support for those two features >>> in the near future sort of confuses me about the vision of this product. >>> Will OAE eventually replace Sakai 2.x? Or OAE is designed for something >>> else? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Clay Fenlason wrote: >>> >>>> I think it's fair to say that there hasn't been significant progress >>>> in this area, while the project has lost many of its contributing >>>> partners in the last couple months, and the focus of the work of the >>>> remaining small team will not bring new assignment and grading >>>> features in the months ahead. We're pressing ahead with making the >>>> most of the novel capabilities around content in support of learning, >>>> but the introduction of LMS-like features for course management are >>>> now at least greatly postponed, and the future is uncertain. >>>> >>>> I don't want to be discouraging, but I do want to caution you away >>>> from any expectation that these features are just around the corner. >>>> >>>> ~Clay >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I asked about the native support for assignment and gradebook in OAE in >>>>> May >>>>> and want to know whether there has been any major progresses in this area. >>>>> >>>>> I saw a session by Sam and Nicolaas on this topic in this year's Sakai >>>>> conference >>>>> https://wiki.jasig.org/display/JCON/2012-06-11+Sakai+OAE+-+Tasks,+Assignments,+Grading+and+Unstructured+Feedback >>>>> >>>>> Sam and Nicolaas: any update on this? >>>>> >>>>> Any information about this is greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> On May 14, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Harry Wang wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Nate and Clay, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your replies. I think I will try the hybrid setup for the >>>>> pilot. >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Clay Fenlason >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The OAE can't be used as a standalone course management system, and >>>>>> you won't see a native gradebook tool or support for assignment >>>>>> submission workflows by September (although features to support >>>>>> assignment activities are on the nearer side of the roadmap [1]). >>>>>> >>>>>> Schools in pilot are supporting these functions with a CLE integration >>>>>> (using Basic LTI) that embeds CLE tools within OAE pages [2]. Some of >>>>>> these tools are being reskinned for the 1.3 release, so they look like >>>>>> a more natural fit, though there are still barriers to sharing content >>>>>> and grades, e.g.: assignment attachments cannot be submitted from the >>>>>> OAE library to the CLE assignment tool (widget) >>>>>> >>>>>> So you essentially need to support these functions, in the interim, >>>>>> with siloed 3rd-party tools. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~Clay >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://oae-community.sakaiproject.org/content#p=ker9TYL5aa/Sakai >>>>>> OAE Roadmap >>>>>> [2] https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/x/jKSCB >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Harry Wang <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are planning to do a small pilot of Sakai OAE at the University of >>>>>>> Delaware in this fall semester. In my opinion, the two most important >>>>>>> missing features are assignment and gradebook if OAE is used as a course >>>>>>> management system. I wonder whether someone can give me an update on the >>>>>>> development plan for those two components. Will they be available before >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> fall semester (September) starts? Any information is greatly >>>>>>> appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> oae-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> oae-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> oae-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> oae-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev > _______________________________________________ > oae-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/oae-dev
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