I really am having trouble understanding the "offense" to women with the current 
handicapping
system.  As far as I can understand, there are 2 distinct sets of results and neither 
is given
precedence.  Men are handicapped by age against other men, and women are handicapped 
by age against
other women.

What, pray tell, is the "main" event?  I'm not aware that there is one.

There is no pretense that this is an individual handicap; it has been presented as a 
way of
determining the "best" time trialists in the club, with consideration for age.  End of 
history (for
now).  If the results are consistently skewed in favour of older riders with the 
current
handicapping algorithm, then the algorithm should be reviewed and perhaps revised.

It is true that an individual handicapping system could easily be established and that 
this kind of
event would be quite fun.  But it is certainly not the only "fair" handicapping 
method.  Indeed, it
could be argued that it would be grossly unfair to the riders who are the most serious 
and dedicated
time trialists, since they would be the least likely to improve their handicap time.

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Subject: Re: [obc] TT Handicapping Method


> > Aaron Fillion> As a person who got no Handicap, I thought this years handicapping
> > method was completely fair.
>
> Perhaps you'd think differently if you were a woman who got no handicap in the
> "official" event? Or perhaps you'd be a little offended if you were told that
> sorry, you're not even a participant in the main event, but just to be ranked
> amongst the other women???
>
> > Aaron> The problem I see with using a personal handicapping system, is that it
> > is MUCH easier to improve upon your time if you are doing 30 minute 15ks
> > opposed to if you are doing 20 minute 15ks.
>
> Hmmm - The current "official" age-handicapping event actually suffers from this
> type of problem, whereas a personal handicapping system CAN certainly be devised to
> avoid it! The current "official" handicapping event gives an unfair advantage to
> the faster riders in each year of birth - ie., giving all  64 year old males a 165
> second advantage regardless of their speed will benefit the faster 64 year old more
> than the slower 64 year old (ie., the faster rider will travel farther in 165
> seconds than will the slower rider) and since we're comparing the performance of
> both of those 64 year olds with people of OTHER ages, we probably shouldn't be
> giving one more of an advantage than the other relative to the other age
> categories...
>
> Celia
>
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