You're right Helen............and I know this. Also, I do understand how frustrated the police must get - who stand between people like me and the thugs..... It's just that.......well.........
...........I sort of feel all too often these days that it kind of like a snail (the ONW & SAPS) chasing after a hare (the ruddy thugs who have every reason to laugh at citizens like us trying to contain a tsunami.....). It's at times when I wonder whether our input is worth anything at all that I tend to go under.... My apologies to the SAPS.............I just get so frustrated that criminals seem to have such an easy upper-hand in the land..... And actually I **do** indeed value the input of Inspector Nel and his team. Sigh..... On Dec 31, 8:52 am, "Helen Swart" <[email protected]> wrote: > Bev Darling, > Don't get yourself so worked up it is not good for your health, I know what > you are feeling I too get frustrated especially when our guys in blue arrest > criminals, and the justice Dept lets them out on bail. > > I believe that our guys cannot just raid a property where they suspect > illegal things are happening, often they have to get permission from the > magistrate before doing a raid, and sometimes this takes time and they too > experience frustration at the delays. > > Marco > Please correct me if I am wrong. > > Helen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Miss Marple" <[email protected]> > To: "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:30 PM > Subject: [obsnw] Re: Student mugging in Milton > > > Hearing this stuff frustrates me terribly. IF THE SAPS KNOW OF THESE > > PLACES (DEALERS IN STOLEN GOODS) WHY, WHY, **WHY** CAN'T THEY DO > > "DEALS" WITH THE OWNERS/TRADERS AND CATCH THE BUGGERS RED-HANDED ? > > WHY - WHY NOT ??? !!! > > > On Dec 30, 2:23 pm, Robin Solar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The items were recovered by a local resident, whom we don't know by > >> name. The cash and 2 cameras were missing. He found from a "known drug > >> den" that one camera was there and could be bought back for a sum of > >> money. The students were insured and we felt uncomfortable about > >> continuing the cycle by buying back stolen goods. The inspector was > >> informed of this and he says that he knows "hundreds" of these places > >> in Woodstock and Salt River, where thieves sell their goods- either > >> for cash for drugs, or drugs directly. We hope this was the right > >> approach, but do not hold out much hope for the people to be arrested > >> for buying stolen property etc. > >> Robin > > >> On Dec 29, 1:35 pm, "David Raphael" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > To summarise the reports on the muggers we are watching out for: > > >> > 2 males, darker than South Africans, one significantly taller than the > >> > other. There is also likely to be a 3rd guy who is the driver. They are > >> > armed with at least one pistol. > > >> > The car is likely to be a Golf 3, or Jumbo - the next shape up from the > >> > Citi > >> > Golf. The colour is an unusual shade of maroonish red, or faded red. > > >> > Please report but take great care, > > >> > David > >> > David Raphael 072 065 7223 > >> > Chairperson > >> > OBS NEIGHBOURHOOD WATCH > > >> > _____ > > >> > From: Molly Slingsby [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > Sent: 29 December 2008 01:10 PM > >> > To: 'David Raphael' > >> > Subject: RE: [obsnw] Re: Student mugging in Milton > > >> > Maroonish red, same as your post. Someone reckoned it could've been a > >> > faded > >> > red, but all agreed it was an unusual shade. > >> > M > > >> > From: David Raphael [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > Sent: 29 December 2008 12:43 PM > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: RE: [obsnw] Re: Student mugging in Milton > > >> > Hi Molly, > > >> > What colour did the witnesses say the car was? > > >> > Thanks > > >> > David > > >> > David Raphael > >> > 072 065 7223 > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >> > Of > > >> > Molly > >> > Sent: 29 December 2008 12:34 PM > >> > To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch > >> > Subject: [obsnw] Re: Student mugging in Milton > > >> > I witnessed the mugging while walking up Milton Rd about a block > >> > behind the students. I didn't see the getaway car, which was parked in > >> > Irwell, but according to other witnesses it was a Golf 3, or Jumbo - > >> > the next shape up from the Citi Golf. The muggers were 2 very dark > >> > guys - I don't think they looked South African, one significantly > >> > taller than the other, and there seems to have been a driver waiting > >> > in the car too. > >> > Some young guys on the scene said they've seen the car cruising Obs a > >> > lot in recent weeks and have witnessed at least one other mugging by > >> > the same perps in the same way. > >> > I gave all this info to the police but advise that anyone who sees > >> > this car, or anything like it with 2 or 3 occupants, notifies the > >> > Sector Police. > >> > Molly > > >> > On Dec 28, 8:10 pm, "Helen Swart" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > Trev > > >> > > at the time the other lady was mugged one of the managers of the > >> > > green > >> > elephant expressed interest in our radios, I passed his number on to > >> > you, > >> > have managed to contacy him yet. > > >> > > Helen > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: David Raphael > >> > > To: [email protected] > >> > > Cc: Inspector Nel > >> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:09 PM > >> > > Subject: [obsnw] Student mugging in Milton > > >> > > A young female overseas student from the Green Elephant in Milton > >> > > was > >> > mugged this afternoon at +/- 4:30 on the corner of Milton/ Wesley by > >> > two > >> > black males, in a small maroon car, armed with a pistol. > > >> > > We suspect that these are the same people who mugged an employee of > >> > > the > >> > Green Elephant recently. They may be targeting the lodges in Milton - > >> > so > >> > please watch for and report: > > >> > > Two black males in a small maroon car > > >> > > The young lady who was mugged was badly traumatised and sat for an > >> > > hour > >> > or so in a chair in Milton. When she was ready to be moved she was > >> > taken by > >> > a student from the Lodge to Woodstock Police Station for trauma > >> > treatment > >> > and to look at photos of suspects. The student who took her had had his > >> > car > >> > broken into last night in Milton. I was glad to find that he had used > >> > the > >> > Police numbers stored in his cell to call our Sector car and they had > >> > arrived promptly. Well done to the Lodge for having the Police numbers > >> > in > >> > their students' cells. > > >> > > It was great to see how well Bev Pettit and Helen Swart used their > >> > radios to coordinate a response and reaction. Clearly the radios are > >> > going > >> > to be very worthwhile. > > >> > > Take care and watch out, > > >> > > David > > >> > > David Raphael 072 065 7223 > > >> > > Chairperson > > >> > > OBS NEIGHBOURHOOD WATCH > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > --- > > >> > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >> > > Checked by AVG. > >> > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: > >> > 12/21/2008 3:08 PM > > >> > > image001.jpg > >> > > 23KViewDownload > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG -http://www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: > >> > 12/28/2008 > >> > 2:23 PM > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG -http://www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: > >> > 2008/12/28 > >> > 02:23 PM > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG -http://www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: > >> > 12/28/2008 > >> > 2:23 PM > > >> > image002.jpg > >> > 23KViewDownload > > >> > image003.gif > >> > 3KViewDownload > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: > > 12/28/2008 2:23 PM- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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