An en[?]tened contribution there Mervyn. Thank you. What we need now is for your vision (which is also mine) to materialise.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Mervyn <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been following this discussion with a great deal of interest. > > My opinion for what it is worth (and it may be worth very little), is > that there is a lot of energy, good energy being wasted. > > There are precious few CONSTRUCTIVE ACTIONS proposed by anyone. They > are all philosophical, "I am right and you are wrong", or venting of > frustration and anger directed at the wrong people. > > I would like the following goals for Observatory and of course, people > my suggest further goals and we can perhaps examine them every year > through the OCA AGM: > > 1. The restoration of a fun, multi ethnic, multi racial, multi > cultural suburb, without hard drugs and health and safety violations, > with clear noise free zones where children, men and women sleep. To > allow Obs to decline plays into the mindset of racist stereotype > thinking of the right wing and we should not allow this. > 2. Respect for residents of all ages and colours by businesses and > visitors to Observatory > 3.The creation of an environment where petty crime and disrespect is > not the norm but the exception > 4.Clean streets without vandalism being visible on every street. > 5. Support and Partnership with Law Enforcement for logical, > consequent and consistent policing, depending on the context in which > the suburb finds itself. > 6. The creation of a sense of community and economic sustainability > where businesses see a long term future as opposed to a quick buck. > 7. Actively tackling/ communication the powers/ stakeholders that be; > whether Province or City or University for non delivery or > incompetence and active praise where there has been a problem-solving > achievement > > We should all endeavor to ensure that we propose and debate > constructive ACTIONS that promote the above goals. > > Best Regards > Mervyn Maistry > > On Mar 22, 7:06 pm, Kris Marais <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for that Teun. > > I am committed to co operating with all concerned to resolve the crime > > plague. > > It's obvious that my response to your email to David Rahphael still > rankles. > > If you are willing I suggest we take the issue off-line and meet to > > discuss and resolve it. > > I am confident we can reach accord as we want the same things, > > Kind regards, > > Kris Marais. 0824512304teun wrote: > > > Open letter to Mr Marais (and other Observatory residents) > > > > > Dear Mr Marais > > > > > I have noted your e-mail and those of the other people in Observatory. > > > You accuse me of being disingenuous, so let's be candid. > > > > > I originally reacted rather angrily to an e-mail from Trevor Hughes. > > > Where did that anger come from? After some soul-searching I must admit > > > that it was not directed at Trevor, but at you. In a few e-mails, > > > which you wrote to me and which were also published to other members > > > of the Observatory community, you attacked me viciously and in a very > > > personal manner while making the point that the Woodstock police was > > > not doing enough in Observatory. When I read Trevor's e-mail, I > > > somehow made the connection with your personal attack on me, probably > > > because the subject of the e-mails (police (non)-action) was similar > > > and made a remark generalising the Obs community. > > > > > I must concede that this was wrong of me and I sincerely apologise to > > > the residents of Observatory. > > > > > Having said that, I would also like to make the point it is clear to > > > me that once again crime did get the better of us. Not only can we > > > fall victim to crime, but crime is also such a dividing, polarising > > > and segregating force. In other words: crime divides and rules. And > > > that is so wrong and disheartening. > > > I am pretty sure that we all want the same thing and most of us are > > > working hard to try and achieve this: to be able to live and work in a > > > safe environment. We should not let squabbles among ourselves and > > > pointing of fingers deter us from seeing the big picture. > > > > > I fell into that trap and I am very sorry about that. I hope that we > > > can turn this into a hard lesson learned and move on from here in the > > > right direction. > > > > > Best regards > > > Teun Baartman > > > > > On Mar 21, 12:07 pm, Kris Marais <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> In my capacity as a resident and property owner in Observatory i > > >> absolutely endorse Justin's message below. > > >> Teun this is yet another example of the disingenuous tone of your > recent > > >> email wherein you make snide reference to 'Observatory' and it appears > > >> to me you are "playing to the gallery." (the gallery? "anybody or > group > > >> of people copied in your email who would like to see Observatory > insulted) > > >> Kris Marais > > > > >> Justin Ashley wrote: > > > > >>> Teun, Trevor related a personal experience he had and objected to, > > >>> which is his democratic right. He did not make any attempt to > > >>> indicate that the views he expressed were representative of any > > >>> organisation or community. > > > > >>> The first two paragraphs or your initial reply to his post are > > >>> reasonable and clear. The gratuitous insult to the Observatory > > >>> community that you decided to throw into your last paragraph is > > >>> offensive and untrue, and I think deserves an apology from you. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Justin > > > > >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > > >>> Behalf Of *Teun Baartman > > >>> *Sent:* 19 March 2010 08:55 AM > > >>> *To:* Trevor Hughes > > >>> *Cc:* [email protected]; Brian & Sue Amery; Woodstock SAPS; > David > > >>> Raphael; Cedric Thomas > > >>> *Subject:* [obsnw] Re: Police harassment > > > > >>> As I said: I'm not an expert. Let's wait for the police reply. > > > > >>> Still does not take away the fact that apparently the Obs community > is > > >>> in two minds about what it wants. > > > > >>> Regards > > > > >>> Teun > > > > >>> On 19 March 2010 08:42, Trevor Hughes <[email protected] > > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > >>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Trevor Hughes < > [email protected] > > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > >>>> Quoted from the constitution:- > > > > >>>> 14. Privacy > > > > >>>> Everyone has the right to privacy, which includes the right not to > > > > >>> have > > > > >>>> 1. their person or home searched; > > >>>> 2. their property searched; > > >>>> 3. their possessions seized; or > > >>>> 4. the privacy of their communications infringed. > > > > >>>> Its pretty clear! > > > > >>>> Trev > > > > >>> 2. 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