Ok, all this Linux stuff is getting me interested...

How do I go about getting my hands on it?

If Red Hat is 'by far one of the most easiest Linux distributions to
install' how do I go about getting my hands on that?

Also, that KDE thingy 'looks' quite neat...

Any info appreciated

Regard

C Fraser

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Ok, I'm gonig to bite.... (sorry Nic <G>)...

> > It's got a LONG way to go. [ 4 days of trying to Red Hat
> > latest up on a system and still running hassles running
> > anything other than 256 colours]. When you can setup and
> > configure it without touching a command line or editing an
> > ascii file, well then

I wonder what version of Red Hat you used?  RH is by far one of the most
easiest Linux distributions to install.  Problems getting more than 256
colorus?  Just maybe you have an unsupported graphics card, or arn't using
the correct x-server software for your card.  These are all options that you
(from memory) get prompted about when installing.

Alot of new linux boxes such as the Cobalt Cube/Raq and Netwinders have
web-based configuration tools where you don't even need to open a shell to
maintain the box...

> > there is the apps problem (and yes I know about WINE).

What apps problem?  I point you to http://freshmeat.net, http://slashdot.org
and http://www.linuxapps.com - you name it, linux has it, and if it doesn't,
it's being worked on :)

> Yeah - I call it a problem when you can't run GIMP under Windows <g>.

Actually Grant, there is a native Win32 port of The GIMP available, the
first port of The Gimp had to be run under a Win32 X-Server such as X-Win32
(very NICE X-Server as well), but a more recent, and fully native port has
been made.  However, it is still afaik rather unstable.

> I agree that it is a major problem with Linux that none of the
> development tools are near as good as Delphi, but I am encouraged by

Depending on your language preferences, take a look at
http://www.netbeans.com - a full *platform independant* development
environment similar to JBuilder, only that it allows you to develop on
Linux, Solaris, Win32, and OS/2.  I've used an early Net Beans beta under
Win32 and it was nice, a little sluggish (but then my machine wasn't fast
either) but it was stable, and a very nice environment to work in...  I just
wish I knew Java :)

> Linux having a great range of DB's (Oracle, Interbase,
> Postgress etc) so

IBM has recently ported DB2 to Linux as well.

> if we can get a decent Java development tool then we could be
> really in

Read above.  There is also a java-bytecode to native linux executable
compiler available to make your java applications absolutely FLY...

> business.  Mmmh - what was that I heard about a Java byte
> code compiler back end to Delphi....

Unfortunately this was for non-visual applications, servlets, and
daemon/console types apps afaik.

Once I re-install Linux on my machine and get a working JVM I'll install Net
Beans for a play and see what I like about it.

Mark
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