On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Alan Coopersmith
<alan.coopersm...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Josh Hurst wrote:
>> I'm not insinuating. I'm not interested in the GNU fud either.
>> Mr. John Beck is still *refusing* integration of the latest ksh93 and
>> modernization work for apparently no technical reason. In terms of
>> law, this would be a breach of social contract. Sun has defined the
>> rules for integration of community work into ON and now breaks them
>> for their own political gain. IMO this is nothing less than outrageous
>> dictatorship and not responsible cooperation with the community.
>
> I thought John had made it very clear that it was not up to him and he
> had shared as much as he could in public.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ksh93-integration-disc...@opensolaris.org/msg00216.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/ksh93-integration-disc...@opensolaris.org/msg00222.html

Who is to blame then? Where can we appeal? Do I have to file a formal
note of protest through our support contract? Sure, I can do that.

> The OGB cannot remove John from his job at Oracle, and cannot force
> Oracle to accept contributions - the most they could do in forcing
> this issue is to further drive a wedge between the community and
> the engineers working at Oracle.   Given John's years on the OGB I
> cannot imagine you'd find a better advocate for the community to
> replace him in the difficult position he is in.

Maybe John Beck was once one of the great ones at Opensolaris. Maybe
he deserves a lot of credit. But is this enough justification to let
him break the rules?

> I also wonder if you are authorized to speak for the ksh93 project
> and why this is not coming from one of the well known project leaders,
> Roland or Olga, if it represents the opinion of the entire project?

I don't know why Roland isn't doing something against this. I didn't
see him in months except the occasional commit in the repository. The
only email I got from Olga about this situation contained a very
depressive comment about her embitterment  and her desire to quit as
project lead. This tells me much about the upcoming apocalypse if no
one is going to fight back.

Josh
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