On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 19:46 +0200, Josh Hurst wrote:
> reasonably fair and treat their contributor with respect.
> 
> Of course, OGB had their heads in the sand like all puppet politicians.

Uh, no.  The OGB are aware of the relevant issues, and I suspect (but
cannot speak for them) that they share some of your concerns.

The problem is that they are utterly powerless.  They aren't even
puppets -- they are all rather disconnected from the decision makers at
Oracle, I think.  None of them are in the direct employ of Oracle, that
I'm aware.  If anything, some of the prior statements and actions of
some of the same members have strongly demonstrated (to me at least)
they they are anything *but* Oracle or Sun shills.

Josh, I'm going to be direct and to the point here.  You may have some
valid points, but the approach of hostility towards the project, Oracle,
Oracle employees, and the elected OGB that you've displayed is entirely
unconstructive, and does more to invalidate your points than anything
anyone at Oracle might say.

Please either find a way to contribute constructively, or go ahead and
leave the project.  Rabble raising and telling Oracle you're going to go
somewhere else is probably not helpful... in fact at this point they're
probably *hoping* you'll go away.  How much money have you spent on Sun
products so far?  Unless you represent a major customer, then its
unlikely (IMO) that Oracle (or anyone else) is going to want to have you
here simply because all you've done is gripe and try to act as a source
of strife.

For the folks who *don't* work at Oracle (of which I am now one), I
think your actions are actively destructive.  At this point, the
community needs Oracle more than Oracle needs the community, and doing
anything which might drive Oracle to walk away from this community is
destructive and ultimately such a result would be a shame.

        -- Garrett


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