From: "Doug Meerschaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >From: "kevin kenan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Ugh.  I don't like that at all.
> >
> >Which part don't you like?
>
> The fact that it goes contrary to open ideas, and creates a heck of
> a lot of unnecessary work!

Clearly, if I thought it was contrary to open ideas I wouldn't have
suggested it. My concern is that the existing wording is going to
create not only more work, but more expense. I described all of my
reasons for this concern in other posts.

> > > Also, there are several creative ways to mark things as OGC
> > > without being repetetitve...
> >
> >Since the OGL requires that you mark *all* OGC, I'm not sure how
> >you would do this except by marking everything as OGC. Tell us,
> >please, of these creative ways.
>
> Kenan, read section 8 of the OGL.
>
> 8. Identification: If you distribute Open Game Content You must clearly
> indicate which portions of the work that you are distributing are
> Open Game Content.
>
> "Clearly Indicate" doesn't mean "mark."  Marking something is a
> clear indication, but so is a disclaimer, a mark of everything that
> isn't, etc.

I have read Section 8. Many times. I could argue that if
something is clearly indicated as open then it is marked either
physically on the page or virtually in the reader's mind, but it
doesn't matter. Since it makes everyone happy, I'll use the term
"clearly indicated" instead of "marked." You can even read all my
previous posts on this subject substituting "clearly indicate" for
"mark" and my point remains the same.

I voiced my concerns, and no one seems to share them. So there's no
real point in pursuing a solution. If my worries turn out to be
relevant once people actually begin producing d20 material, then we
can revisit the problem and entertain possible solutions. If they
don't, then no harm done.

I still am curious how people intend to mark, er, clearly indicate OGC
in works which heavily mix OGC and PI. The only strategy I know of is
to create a list of PI and open everything else. This will minimize
the risks I've written about before. It just doesn't seem to be a good
strategy for people who are truly trying to protect their IP. If most
of what I was creating was my own IP and I wanted to keep it closed,
then I would want to open as little of it as possible. 

-kenan

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