> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Russ Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] If Thoughts Could Kill - Illithid reference > violation? > > > On 1/15/02 12:45 AM, John W. Mangrum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > > >Doug Meerschaert wrote: > >> > >> Show us a WotC-written monster who's advancement says "by Charater > >> class" and nothing else, and that isn't at least part humanoid (centuar > >> / drider / etc.) and the point will be refuted. > > > >Monsters of Faerun: Choldrith, cloaker lord, malaugrym, phaerimm. > > humanoid head amd arms (choldrith) > not able to advance as anything but a sorcer (phaerrim) > shapechanger with a human form (malaugrym) > and the cloaker, which is a humanoid form (two arms and head) tacked onto > a cloak. You're talking someone who bought the first appearance of the > cloaker the year it came out.
Forgive me, but I keep having images of a Monty Pythonesque discussion. (Fill in John Cleese and your other favorite Pythonesque voices here.) "That swan's not black!" "No, he's not." "He's off-white." "Yes, definitely off-white." "A very dark off-white." "Yes, dark, very dark." "Very very dark. You might even say grey." "Yes, grey. A very, very dark grey." "So dark, in fact, that to the untrained eye, it might APPEAR black." "Oh, but that would be wrong!" "But it is most definitely -- " "Definitely!" " -- NOT black." "Oh, no, not black at all." "That's right." "So by once again proving that a putative black swan is, in fact, NOT black -- " "NOT black!" "-- I said, NOT black, we have once again proven -- " "Proven!" " -- that there are NO black swans." "No, none at all." "Just white swans." "And off-white swans." "Yes, and off-white swans." "And dark grey swans." "Yes, yes, of course, and dark grey swans." "Dark grey swans that may APPEAR black." "Yes, but only to the untrained eye." "Oh, of course." > Not to mention that none of those are in the SRD. hmm :) Neither is anything that says that Mind Flayers are humanoid, despite your persistent attempts at rules lawyering. Martin L. Shoemaker Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.MartinLShoemaker.com http://www.UMLBootCamp.com _______________________________________________ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
