Lx 2014 was done in a very efficient way to improve the quality of 2013,
proof we have our identity and are able to quickly release more than one
distribution. This is obviously a great and impressive success :) But this
implied that dev team did not have time (and did not want) to change big
stuff such as installer etc.

However, for next release, we'll have time to have more interaction with
users (contributors, power users, mid level, newcomers), to imagine and
define the future of OpenMandriva and then see where we should try to focus
our strenghts (and if we are able to)

These topics are indeed very interesting to raise, thanks SymbianFlo and
Blackcrack, we'll come back on them after the release :)




2014-04-20 14:04 GMT+02:00 [email protected] <
[email protected]>:

>
> Il 20/04/2014 11:01, Denis Silakov ha scritto:
>
> As for per-package installation, it has two disadvantages:
> 1) It is very slow if compared to squashfs (just take a look at mageia
> installation process, if they still use per-package installation, and be
> prepared to wait a couple of hours)
> 2) We have too many packages (~10.000) and most users have no idea about
> what 99% of that packages do.
>
> Imho, it makes more sense to follow SUSE way and to have a base squashfs
> image with minimal system and additional images - e.g., with KDE, Gnome and
> other DEs, with printing/develpment stacks, localizations for every
> language, etc. So users will be able to make a top-level choice without
> digging into per-package basis and still have enough flexibility to setup
> their system according to their needs.
>
> But again - talk is cheap and still we have nobody willing to improve the
> installer:)
>
>
>
>
>  Ok why we just don't take a look at arch-linux?
> Would be perfect a core iso , everything else will be decided by user
> at install time by launching the install scripts , that launch the install
> of a task-package OTA
> Already we have meta /task-packages  so it won't be very difficult to
> improve this,
>
> For offline install we can keep it like it is.
>
>
> And another thing ... nowadays  a high speed connection is available *even
> *
> via various mobile data ... so only if our isos are made to be installed
> at the north/south pole or in the middle of sahara desert
> offline install is just in case....
>
> As for timing is like an DE upgrade 5 to 10 minutes to install kde4 ...
> just to mention a recent example in fresh.
>
>
> But of course this is  only my POV, as for installer ...we have much
> worse problem to solve ...the installer IMO, is not a high priority
> issue , but that rosa-fresh and omv act like M$ crap when uuids are
> changed
> THIS IS AN ISSUE. And you can deny it on avoid it , I can tell you about
> hundreds of pc that wont boot and users are clueless in front of  a
> useless dracut-emergency-shell, but I bet that
> "i can tell you , and you don't wanna know" just to mention a famous
> phrase.  :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Greetings
>
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>
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>
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>
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> ________________
>
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