Orginally this comes from itchka,and this was on 2014.0 specification list, see 
wiki. We discussed this on TC meeting, and conclusion was that Council need a 
final decision.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rolf Pedersen <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:52:19 
To: <[email protected]>; Cooker OpenMandriva<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Questions!

I am not disagreeing with the decision to be safe from potential for 
legal action.  I did mistake the author of the proposal as you, as the 
linked Loomio page starts with, "From TPG".
https://www.loomio.org/d/t3NUhoBu/libdvdcss
but I can see, now,
"Raphaël Jadot <https://www.loomio.org/u/H9V7EcJg/raphael-jadot> created 
a proposal: Include libdvdcss in main repos
3 months ago"
So, I am in agreement with the ultimate decision against this proposal.
Rolf

On 04/20/2014 08:40 AM, Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
> Sure we can include all stuff what is patented. I wonder who will then take 
> the responsibility of further court suits, or any further charges?
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rolf Pedersen <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:28:15
> To: Cooker OpenMandriva<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Cooker OpenMandriva <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Questions!
>
> My read is that TPG proposed inclusion of libdvdcss in main/iso and
> disagree votes prevailed.  At any rate, I use VLC a lot, along with
> others, but I realize I have to adjust to what development provides, in
> OMV or elsewhere.  The pulse of *this* community member is that the
> profanity, condescending remarks, and personal attacks are neither
> productive nor welcome.
> Rolf
>
> On 04/20/2014 08:16 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Il 20/04/2014 16:33, Tomasz Paweł Gajc ha scritto:
>>> This was raised by TC to support libdvdcss and friend libraries to
>>> support DVD play. OMA Council dedided this is still a patent threat
>>> to our community and we can not provide such software.
>>>
>>> To cut that discussion, our products are FREE and support FREE/LIBRE
>>> software.
>> Ok , It is romp OSS? Or qmplay2? they work out of the box ... all i'm
>> seeing here is your stubbornness in keeping vlc... as i saw bero and
>> proyvind ware much more
>> open to debate , this is a problem and hide under a decision that was
>> taken outside the real world
>> is childish , but since you are the big man here and I ain't nobody,
>> of course you have right
>> to do whatever you please, seeing this , MANDRIVA SA -like attitude of
>> yours  i'm glad that
>> I'm just  an outsider,... and now c'mon , honestly what would be my
>> dark and devious
>> purposes in dropping that vlc crap?
>> qmplay2 will be the default player on lxde-qt, very well maintained,
>> romp is the best , no need further more comments,
>> smplayer no comments, why you want the vlc crap so bad? Did they pay you?
>> On what serious linux distro is vlc the default player?
>> all players based on mplayer or ffpaly  support out of the box dvd
>> play...
>> It might be OPENmandriva but the old habits never change....  and you
>> TPG is one of the
>> "old habits", you would do a perfect team with A.N and Misc.
>> A open minded association would take the user side and not
>> his own commodity ...
>> I hate mdv and all what it was about it , and now you are acting like
>> they would....
>> I just wonder with how many end users are you in touch , just to feel
>> the pulse of the day...???
>> For your information top of the pops is multimedia, first thing searched
>> by a normal user, ..and this libdvdcss excuse is bullshit ( and i'm
>> polite here),
>> no need for close/restricted player /codecs in order to have a
>> full-optional
>> default media player, an i'm more then  sure that if you bring this to
>> your council
>> will agree with dropping vlc... if no serious distro adopt vlc as default
>> must be a reason...
>> IMO you are still believe that that small amount of users that we have
>> will accept everything you impose them , then you can be proud ,
>> MANDRVA SA
>> lives in you.
>> bleah  I'm out of here.
>>
>> PS:
>> Blacky might be a "bigmouth" and the installer can not be changed in time
>> but he has a point, you  justify your decisions  with your proposals....
>>
>> https://www.loomio.org/d/t3NUhoBu/libdvdcss
>>  From TPG:
>> one of 2014.0 specs needs Council decision:
>> bla bla bla
>>
>> and we stuck with vlc ... did they pay you well ???  did they hire there?
>>
>> I've being  around long enough to read the subtitles....
>> I might be a nobody but you just pissed this nobody off...
>> And long live mandriva s.a ....bleah..
>>
>> I'm really thrilled to be part of the team...
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> ___________________
>>
>> MRB ain't no shit
>>
>> Rosalinux.Ro
>>
>> Mandrivausers.Ro
>>
>> ________________
>>
>> Talk is cheap, show me the code.
>>
>>
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