Turns out it was suggested that I use PCMover, and for some reason I thought it 
was Microsoft, but it is in fact by laplink (but is 'recommended by Intel and 
Microsoft').  It sounds OK:  https://go.laplink.com/product/pcmover-home

I only recently moved to Win 10 from Win 7 and that was definitely a downgrade, 
so I know what you mean ...

Mike

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at] 
> Sent: 22 December 2024 21:13
> To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad creating a release of ooRexx 
> 5.1.0, please give feedback
> 
> On 22.12.2024 18:16, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:
> >> [Actually, I am totally backlogged with different time-consuming 
> >> tasks, among them my new Windows 11 laptop that arrived late and 
> >> which needs to be installed with a wealth of software to 
> become able 
> >> again to build ooRexx. At the moment this important project is on 
> >> hold ...
> > I thought Windows 11 from Windows 10 migration was supposed 
> to be as 
> > easy as Android .. i.e., just 'update', not 're-install everything'?
> 
> Wish that were the case. Got a Lenovo Thinkpad with Windows 
> 11 preinstalled. From starting up the machine for the first 
> time until I arrived at the state where I could start to 
> install software it took almost four hours: fetching 
> constantly updates, applying them, rebooting, a few times. 
> Microsoft forced me to create an account with Microsoft, 
> otherwise I could not get to use Windows 11 that I had 
> already bought with the laptop, talk about abusing power!
> 
> The user interface has "blind" links to all of Microsoft's 
> Office modules pre-installed, including OneDrive, Co-Pilot 
> and the like. If you click e.g. on the Word link it appears 
> to get you to the open page, where you can choose a document 
> type then a dialog pops-up where you have to register in 
> order to really use it, and the registration would move you 
> to a monthly license fee plan it appears. No competitor of 
> Microsoft has the same ability (to put links to their 
> software on to the Windows interface and toolbar) thereby 
> pre-empting any competition by abusing their market power! 
> (No, I would not want any advertisements or software bundles 
> on an operating system, just the operating system to operate 
> the software.)
> 
> As I do not want any license fee based PC software I looked 
> for the latest MS Office that is not license fee based. It is 
> rather hard to find, but since October there is a new one-time-fee
> ("permanent") Office 2024 Pro PC. Researching a little bit I 
> finally got a version for € 29,99 which entitles me to 
> install it on three PCs (go figure if comparing to the 
> officially announced prices). 
> The site I found would have Windows 10 or Windows 11 for that 
> price, but also bundles with various MS Office suites for 
> that very same price. When installing MS Office 2024 one 
> needs to remove any traces of a prior installation of MS 
> Office or one of its modules. And interestingly, the blind 
> links are installed and need to be uninstalled. (At that 
> occasion I noticed that MS Edge seems to be uninstallable as 
> well which I contemplate as Windows 11 does not fully honor 
> my choice to use Firefox as the default browser.) Also it 
> seems that Microsoft used my newly created Microsoft account 
> without asking, thereby personalizing the Office product 
> without any need as the proof of ownership had been given 
> with presenting the acquired product key. Talk about breaking privacy!
> 
> Doing a Shutdown (German "Herunterfahren") will not shut down 
> Windows 11 but put it into sleeping/hibernation mode without 
> telling you, so no reboot process when restarting. 
> Researching on the Internet yielded a solution: press the 
> shift-key while choosing "Shutdown", then it will shutdown 
> (the meaning of words does not mean anything anymore it seems).
> 
> And on, and on, and on, a true time killer, not a 
> productivity tool anymore, I am afraid (not the least because 
> of the many changes in the user-interface that force you to 
> research on the Internet what to do in Windows 11 in order to 
> achieve what you have been doing for years if not decades on 
> all Windows versions in the past).
> 
> An important productivity howto for Windows 11: just memorize 
> to use the <WindowsKey>+<R> to get a little input window to 
> enter a command like "cmd" and press <enter> to get a command 
> line window, if you need it with administrative rights you 
> need to do a <shift>+<enter> instead. There is no icon/link 
> anymore to allow you to open it directly in normal or 
> administrative mode.
> 
> If you choose "Terminal" in the search window you will get by 
> default the quite human-unfriendly "PowerShell" command line 
> window (which very Windows-unlike does not search in the 
> current directory first and then on PATH, but sticks to the 
> original Unix rule to only use PATH for locating programs). 
> To escape from PowerShell into the classic command line 
> window one needs to enter the command "cmd".
> 
> (If it was not for ooRexx- and BSF4ooRexx-projects I would 
> not use a Windows machine anymore, but rather a Linux or 
> Apple machine with open-source software.)
> 
> > [Some annoyance here because none of family machines are 
> 'Windows 11 
> > compatible' (they use the EU versions of Intel CPUs but the USA 
> > versions of the same model are supported) so in theory have 
> to replace 
> > all PCs and laptops at huge expense when current hardware is plenty 
> > fast enough...]
> >
> >> ... as I will be visiting my mother over Christmas and 
> possibly New Year.
> > Have a good Xmas, and all the best for 2025!
> 
> Thank you and also have a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2025!
> 
> ---rony
> 
> 
> 
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