I used PCMover a couple years ago when I replaced an old desktop machine
and it definitely made the process much easier. It's a very strange
business model for a software product. One where I suspect most of their
customers use it exactly once, then buy a new copy the next time they need
it.

Rick

On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 4:23 AM Mike Cowlishaw <m...@speleotrove.com> wrote:

> Turns out it was suggested that I use PCMover, and for some reason I
> thought it was Microsoft, but it is in fact by laplink (but is 'recommended
> by Intel and Microsoft').  It sounds OK:
> https://go.laplink.com/product/pcmover-home
>
> I only recently moved to Win 10 from Win 7 and that was definitely a
> downgrade, so I know what you mean ...
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.at]
> > Sent: 22 December 2024 21:13
> > To: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad creating a release of ooRexx
> > 5.1.0, please give feedback
> >
> > On 22.12.2024 18:16, Mike Cowlishaw wrote:
> > >> [Actually, I am totally backlogged with different time-consuming
> > >> tasks, among them my new Windows 11 laptop that arrived late and
> > >> which needs to be installed with a wealth of software to
> > become able
> > >> again to build ooRexx. At the moment this important project is on
> > >> hold ...
> > > I thought Windows 11 from Windows 10 migration was supposed
> > to be as
> > > easy as Android .. i.e., just 'update', not 're-install everything'?
> >
> > Wish that were the case. Got a Lenovo Thinkpad with Windows
> > 11 preinstalled. From starting up the machine for the first
> > time until I arrived at the state where I could start to
> > install software it took almost four hours: fetching
> > constantly updates, applying them, rebooting, a few times.
> > Microsoft forced me to create an account with Microsoft,
> > otherwise I could not get to use Windows 11 that I had
> > already bought with the laptop, talk about abusing power!
> >
> > The user interface has "blind" links to all of Microsoft's
> > Office modules pre-installed, including OneDrive, Co-Pilot
> > and the like. If you click e.g. on the Word link it appears
> > to get you to the open page, where you can choose a document
> > type then a dialog pops-up where you have to register in
> > order to really use it, and the registration would move you
> > to a monthly license fee plan it appears. No competitor of
> > Microsoft has the same ability (to put links to their
> > software on to the Windows interface and toolbar) thereby
> > pre-empting any competition by abusing their market power!
> > (No, I would not want any advertisements or software bundles
> > on an operating system, just the operating system to operate
> > the software.)
> >
> > As I do not want any license fee based PC software I looked
> > for the latest MS Office that is not license fee based. It is
> > rather hard to find, but since October there is a new one-time-fee
> > ("permanent") Office 2024 Pro PC. Researching a little bit I
> > finally got a version for € 29,99 which entitles me to
> > install it on three PCs (go figure if comparing to the
> > officially announced prices).
> > The site I found would have Windows 10 or Windows 11 for that
> > price, but also bundles with various MS Office suites for
> > that very same price. When installing MS Office 2024 one
> > needs to remove any traces of a prior installation of MS
> > Office or one of its modules. And interestingly, the blind
> > links are installed and need to be uninstalled. (At that
> > occasion I noticed that MS Edge seems to be uninstallable as
> > well which I contemplate as Windows 11 does not fully honor
> > my choice to use Firefox as the default browser.) Also it
> > seems that Microsoft used my newly created Microsoft account
> > without asking, thereby personalizing the Office product
> > without any need as the proof of ownership had been given
> > with presenting the acquired product key. Talk about breaking privacy!
> >
> > Doing a Shutdown (German "Herunterfahren") will not shut down
> > Windows 11 but put it into sleeping/hibernation mode without
> > telling you, so no reboot process when restarting.
> > Researching on the Internet yielded a solution: press the
> > shift-key while choosing "Shutdown", then it will shutdown
> > (the meaning of words does not mean anything anymore it seems).
> >
> > And on, and on, and on, a true time killer, not a
> > productivity tool anymore, I am afraid (not the least because
> > of the many changes in the user-interface that force you to
> > research on the Internet what to do in Windows 11 in order to
> > achieve what you have been doing for years if not decades on
> > all Windows versions in the past).
> >
> > An important productivity howto for Windows 11: just memorize
> > to use the <WindowsKey>+<R> to get a little input window to
> > enter a command like "cmd" and press <enter> to get a command
> > line window, if you need it with administrative rights you
> > need to do a <shift>+<enter> instead. There is no icon/link
> > anymore to allow you to open it directly in normal or
> > administrative mode.
> >
> > If you choose "Terminal" in the search window you will get by
> > default the quite human-unfriendly "PowerShell" command line
> > window (which very Windows-unlike does not search in the
> > current directory first and then on PATH, but sticks to the
> > original Unix rule to only use PATH for locating programs).
> > To escape from PowerShell into the classic command line
> > window one needs to enter the command "cmd".
> >
> > (If it was not for ooRexx- and BSF4ooRexx-projects I would
> > not use a Windows machine anymore, but rather a Linux or
> > Apple machine with open-source software.)
> >
> > > [Some annoyance here because none of family machines are
> > 'Windows 11
> > > compatible' (they use the EU versions of Intel CPUs but the USA
> > > versions of the same model are supported) so in theory have
> > to replace
> > > all PCs and laptops at huge expense when current hardware is plenty
> > > fast enough...]
> > >
> > >> ... as I will be visiting my mother over Christmas and
> > possibly New Year.
> > > Have a good Xmas, and all the best for 2025!
> >
> > Thank you and also have a Merry Christmas and all the best for 2025!
> >
> > ---rony
> >
> >
> >
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