@Adam thank you for your response ... this is an open forum, and you of
course are free to offer your personal point of view.
We do not censor any posts (well except those emails advertising various
sex aids, and if anyone needs us to forward them to you in case you are
in the market, then be sure to let us know)
Adam Cameron wrote:
At what point did i make a weak stab at Adobe? I merely posed the
question. So let's not get personal here Adam.
No, mate, you didn't. *This* is a (weak) dig at Adobe:
{quote}
Is the marketing that Adobe push out, promote it as a language? The
last time I went to the Adobe site you could be forgiven for thinking
it
was a design package not dissimilar to how they market Flash.
{quote}
excuse me? Is that not a question? I think that is a question in my
book. It definitely looks like a question, look, it even has a ? and
everything!
As many others have commented, Adobe don't make it terribly clear in the
initial "blurb" that you are dealing with a language.
You've heard the comments on this list too (regarding recruiting +
perception); so again this is just not my point of view. So are you
telling us that we are all wrong? That we are imagining it? That our
experiences didn't happen?
wow ... that is quite impressive. Maybe this is all a dream ... damn
... is this what INCEPTION feels like?!? How many layers deep are we?
{digression}
The tone of this forum is quite often along the lines that the "third
party" CFML engines are somehow being a bit hard done by Adobe, so
perhaps your approach is to be expected. This irks me (albeit only a
bit, and only in a "oh... here we go again..." sort of way). People
seem to forget that their (BD, OpenBD, Railo) entire raison d'être is
Adobe's CF product. Without that there'd be no BlueDragon, so no
OpenBD. And no Railo either. Adobe provides the lion's share of the
marketting for the product (and accordingly product awareness),
training for the product, documentation for the product, and the
lion's share of the community. Not one person in the industry would
know about BlueDragon or Railo in their own context, outside that of
those products being a knock-off of Adobe's product. I am far (FAR)
away from being an Adobe yea-sayer, but "know your place".
{digression}
I take issue with this digression -- i believe you are off the mark on a
number of fronts (well all of them). But i am not going to descend
down this path in a mailing list format as it always ends up getting
personal. Some people can't help themselves; even your posts Adam come
over as aggressive.
If you going to OpenCFSummit, i am more than happy to talk to you about
this face-2-face. In fact this would make a wonderful open-discussion
at OpenCFSummit on where we see the role of Adobe in the landscape. I
think the answers would surprise you Adam.
[snip]
You certainly lead
Adobe in this regard (although that is damning OBD with faint praise,
I think).
Careful Adam ... you are in danger of nearly offering a compliment! We
seldom hear that from you ;)
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