I find this discussion quite interesting for one reason that of associating cf with design. When Adobe was contemplating buying cf I made a comment on the Atlanta cf user group that I thought it would be a good thing. At the time I owned a small print shop. I had developed several cf scripts that would manipulate Pagemaker first and then Adobe Indesign when it came out. One of the scripts I did was taking a business card file laying it out 24up on a 11x17 file ready to go to press. Forms was another one that was easy to do. Print ready pdf files was easy to do also. My comment back then was I seen that Adobe had the opportunity to place a cf server in every print shop which would in turn require more cf developers. As we all know now no one at Adobe had the  vision to see that this happened.

Tom

At 06:40 AM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
It's pretty plain and simple, the new generation just doesn't grow up
with Coldfusion because there are many other open-source alternatives
out there which are free, generate more hype and have more hosting
options.  So the 14 year olds learn PHP, Ruby or Python and Java.
That's completely understandable, you can't change this it's called
reality.

Sorry if I may sound bitter at Adobe but the people who are interested
in Adobe are for the most part from the designer world not the
developer community and as such the association of Coldfusion with
Adobe is not good for Coldfusion.

I also don't agree with the notion that Open BlueDragon or Railo
wouldn't be there without Adobe, they actually predate the Adobe
takeover.  Railo started in 2002, Bluedragon in 2001.  I also doubt
that the Adobe's takeover substantially grew the Coldfusion server
share, on the contrary many companies were switching from Coldfusion
to other alternatives including the company I worked for at the time,
when Macromedia was bought by Adobe licenses at our place were not
renewed.

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