That makes the problem harder. You still have to somehow deal with different word-senses for "apple", and in addition, you also need to create a a model of the mental state of id1. So, if id1 is a child, the word-sense for "apple" and "sweet" is probably different than if id1 is an iphone fanboi. This opens a can of worms: what are id1's beliefs and world-view?
(and context dependent: did id1 say that while standing in front of a store-front selling Apple computer products? or while standing in front of a grocery display?) I think this is "solvable", but its at/past the cutting-edge of what anyone else is doing with opencog. I've been trying to work on "mental models" but it's currently hard. --linas On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnupriya...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I also had an another idea of coupling the sentences along with their id. > Ex. Why can't i give sentences like "Apples are sweet, said by id1". > "Farmers are starving, said by id2" .So that i would know which sentence > has which id. what do you say? > > Thanks, > Vishnu > > > On Monday, 14 November 2016 21:53:56 UTC+1, linas wrote: > >> >> A better design would be to explicitly acknowledge that words have >> meanings. The way that this is currently done looks roughly like this: >> >> (EvaluationLink >> (PredicateNode "is") >> (ListLink >> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >> (ConceptNode "fruit@meanning-66") >> ) >> ) >> >> I hope the above is "obvious": the 42nd kind of meaning of the word >> "apple" is a kind of "fruit", where by "fruit", we mean the 66th entry in >> Webster's dictionary. >> >> (ReferenceLink >> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >> (WordNode "apple") >> ) >> >> That tells you the actual word that gets used for meaning-42. This is a >> lexical function https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexical_function >> >> (WordInstanceLink >> (SentencNode "id1") >> (WordInstanceNode "apple@bf71826c-487e-42df-a941-0ecd3c942a76") >> ) >> >> This tells you that the the word apple occurred in sentence id1 >> >> (ReferenceLink >> (WordInstanceNode "apple@bf71826c-487e-42df-a941-0ecd3c942a76") >> (ConceptNode "apple@meaning-42") >> ) >> >> This tells you that the word apple in sentence id1 actually corresponds >> to meaning 42. >> >> See? No context link at all. >> >> The above oversimplifies things a little bit. Some of the reference >> links should probably be EvaluationLinks. The lexical functions need to be >> improved, a lot. The current output is documented here: >> http://wiki.opencog.org/w/RelEx_OpenCog_format but it could be >> over-hauled and improved, its not perfect. >> >> I believe that the above should work well with PLN, but that remains to >> be seen: again Nil is working on this now. >> >> --linas >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnup...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Linas! >>> >>> Thanks for the reply. It's ok. Totally understandable.!! >>> >>> Yeah just read about ContextLink on wiki. >>> >>> I have a scenario, where i have sentences that i want to give to NLP >>> Pipeline. Along with sentences, i also have an attribute called id. Like a >>> reference for sentence. >>> Each sentence is associated with an identifier. For me, it would be >>> useful when i have the sentences parsed along with their id. >>> Later, say i stimulate and get STI, whatever i do, finally i should be >>> knowing, to what id the atom belongs to. >>> >>> So i thought, with something like below, i might achieve that. >>> apple is fruit in the context of id1. >>> (EvaluationLink >>> (ContextLink id1 >>> (PredicateNode "is") >>> (ListLink >>> (ConceptNode "apple") >>> (ConceptNode "fruit") >>> ) >>> ) >>> >>> >>> >>> But i don't know, how to input my sentences along with their >>> identifiers. Is it possible somehow to do such a thing of incorporating >>> identifiers ? >>> or is it totally not doable? >>> >>> >>> --vishnu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 11 November 2016 02:30:44 UTC+1, linas wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> sorry just now recovering from system outages and an email overload. >>>> >>>> ContextLink and how to use it is documented on the wiki. >>>> >>>> Currently it it not used very much, or at all. >>>> >>>> ContextLinks only make sense once you know how to asssign meaning to >>>> things -- syntax parsing of sentences is far too low-level for this, >>>> because you don't yet know what the word "apple" is. >>>> >>>> --linas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Vishnu Priya <vishnup...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Linas, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to know how to use ContextLink. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - The Apple is red in color. >>>>> - The Headquarters of apple is in California. >>>>> >>>>> Each and every sentence of mine has certain context word. >>>>> I want the former sentence to be parsed along with ContextLink fruit >>>>> and the later as company. So that later, i can identify which atom >>>>> belongs >>>>> to which context. >>>>> Should i make changes at the parser level? What should i do? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Vishnu >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opencog+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to opencog@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA35GKPzSXgR%2B0Y1EtD3Sx7BLhLM3mLydK_wzN9w6L53-mw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
