On 4/4/07, Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok...so now I am confused. From what I read, I see that as well. But IIUC, the PPMC has somewhat disbanded less a "vote" on new members...again...am I missing something?
I've been looking for some additional information on the PPMC and PMC, but couldn't find any reference that would back up the statement of forming PMC from the former PPMC. It simply does make sense. So, let me think about the situation out loud. In our case, with Jeff, Matt, Rick who're with OpenEJB for a long time and they're not on PPMC, it might mean that 1) PPMC has completely forgotten to vote to invite them to PPMC, 2) PPMC has decided they are not ready to be invited to PPMC yet. Either case doesn't sound good. It's us, the PPMC, who should've taken an active role in taking care of people who did't fall into these categories. That's where I think we focused too much on coding rather than on establishing a healthy community. Well, it doesn't mean that we don't have one, we do, but again - pointing out the names, Mohammad and Manu were active enough, to be visible and by their activities influenced the final decision about their invitation to become the committers. Perhaps, if I'd spend more time on the project, I'd have noticed it, but I think current activities around the project always boiled down to my activity in discussions with no care of others less involved in development activities who helped us, but might've felt being excluded only because they're not actively coding. Shame on me! As you can see, I've got many doubts and lots of troubles figuring out what road we should follow. Given that I feel that it was simply an oversight and I should've stepped forward to discuss the issue beforehand, I'd go ahead and...likely make a mistake that would outlive the project - there would always be bad feelings about the initial committers. On the other hand, if we stayed here and wait till the situation is sorted out in the Incubator, how would that change from the situation we'd graduate and do it later? Let's be honest, what if PPMC didn't think they're ready for PPMC? Should that hinder our graduation? These questions surely pop up in our heads and if it happened in this project, it might completely grind down what we've achieved so far. Hmm, I think I've got too much thinking about it and would appreciate the others' comment on it. I don't like when people are unhappy so I'm all ears to hear anything I should/could do to turn it around. (Oh how I wish Jeff had pointed it out before) Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
