On 4/4/07, Jacek Laskowski wrote: >Ah, I understand your point now. I don't remember I ever knew why I >was invited to PPMC - perhaps my email contributions mattered ;-) It >just happened so I thought there was a discussion in private between >PPMC members. I don't think PPMC needs to explain why one is on PPMC, >and others are not. Those who could be invited are already committers. >As you know from the Geronimo PMC, those who are committers and PMC >member is always a question of how people are seen by current project >participants. It's always a personal issue whether one is a good >candidate or not. We're discussing it (here and in Geronimo PMC), but >what matters for one might not be important to another.
The missing component is the communication. Was there a vote that occurred, or were you (and others) just picked by David? David has yet to answer this question. Normally on the other projects, there has been an email sent out saying XYZ has been voted on by the PMC...I saw no such email. >I don't think there's anyone who has not been given a fair chance. I'd >even say that it's not fair to have said so. It's in the discretion of >the PPMC to decide who's a committer and who's not. The same applies >to vote for a PPMC member. We haven't been given an answer on this as of yet. >> AFAICT, everyone has been dedicated >> and I question the level of contributions in the last year from some of >> those picked. So I had to ask what is the criteria for being on this >> PMC. >What do you mean by contributions? You're a Geronimo PMC member and >I'm sure you're very well aware that there's no hard rules to vote >people in. It's always discussed and (P)PMC doesn't need to share the >outcome with the potential candidate. > >To be honest, I'm the only one who'd be questioned who's on the list. I don't agree. You are a pretty heavy contributor in more than just code. In fact my code contributions have been light, but I do try to stay on top of issues, etc. So don't question yourself ;-) >Why? I'm not a hard-coder like Mohammad, Manu, DMB, DJ, Dain plus the >initial PPMC team. Is being 'talkative' enough to say that one >contributed to a project? I don't know. I'm the one who met the >criteria many times and perhaps it was that what made the PPMC to >think to vote me in. I don't really know. But do I have to? No...nobody is questioning you. A few of us want to know how/what/why people were picked. Normally with an intact project and PMC, I can see the voting. But coming from an incubated project where all folks are equal, I am having a hard time seeing how someone gets picked for PMC. We all want to know what this criteria was, and who got to choose. Did a vote occur? Or did David just pick? >I do hope I haven't hurt anyone. Please let me know if I did. I'll >appologize at once and get rid of some nasty habits that might lead to >it. Also, please bear in mind that English is not my mother language >so not everything I had in my mind is in this email and won't likely >be soon due to my ability to learn constraints. You are doing fine ;-) I really appreciate your comments and input. Jeff -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-vote--Request-Graduation-to-a-TLP-tf3509720s2756.html#a9839067 Sent from the OpenEJB Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
