On 4/4/07, jgenender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Jacek, Thanks for answering, but unfortunately, the PPMC that was bootstrapped was Henri, Jason, and Brett. So there is a delta between that PPMC and the current list. I saw no emails going out that stated that the new list of attendees have been voted in. The only discussion I saw was people asking what they thought about David Blevins becoming our Chair, then he appeared to hand pick a PMC. If this is the way it went, then this is not community driven at all.
Ah, I understand your point now. I don't remember I ever knew why I was invited to PPMC - perhaps my email contributions mattered ;-) It just happened so I thought there was a discussion in private between PPMC members. I don't think PPMC needs to explain why one is on PPMC, and others are not. Those who could be invited are already committers. As you know from the Geronimo PMC, those who are committers and PMC member is always a question of how people are seen by current project participants. It's always a personal issue whether one is a good candidate or not. We're discussing it (here and in Geronimo PMC), but what matters for one might not be important to another.
I think David should have asked everyone who is interested in being on the PMC, and given everyone a fair chance.
I don't think there's anyone who has not been given a fair chance. I'd even say that it's not fair to have said so. It's in the discretion of the PPMC to decide who's a committer and who's not. The same applies to vote for a PPMC member.
AFAICT, everyone has been dedicated and I question the level of contributions in the last year from some of those picked. So I had to ask what is the criteria for being on this PMC.
What do you mean by contributions? You're a Geronimo PMC member and I'm sure you're very well aware that there's no hard rules to vote people in. It's always discussed and (P)PMC doesn't need to share the outcome with the potential candidate. To be honest, I'm the only one who'd be questioned who's on the list. Why? I'm not a hard-coder like Mohammad, Manu, DMB, DJ, Dain plus the initial PPMC team. Is being 'talkative' enough to say that one contributed to a project? I don't know. I'm the one who met the criteria many times and perhaps it was that what made the PPMC to think to vote me in. I don't really know. But do I have to? I do hope I haven't hurt anyone. Please let me know if I did. I'll appologize at once and get rid of some nasty habits that might lead to it. Also, please bear in mind that English is not my mother language so not everything I had in my mind is in this email and won't likely be soon due to my ability to learn constraints. Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
