David,

Thanks for the explanation. I think the lesson learned is the (P)PMC needs to be more transparent which I expect was an oversight because things were working so well :-)

I have to say that the discussion on the topic has been really good and shows some good community dynamics. I think the progress made on OpenEJB3 has been spectacular (hats off to those on the commit log) and I know there's been a lot of grinding on EJB2 regarding the new Yoko work; net is that I think things are really going well.

Based on the issues raised and clarified by Jacek and Genender I think things are in good shape and would give OpenEJB a solid +1 (even more so now than before) for graduation.

To make sure things are clear I'd suggest close the old vote and respin a new one (with fewer comments :-)

Thanks for shepherding this through.

On Apr 4, 2007, at 2:42 PM, David Blevins wrote:

Ok, so here's the how/when/who info:

The link posted by Brett contains the who/when:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/incubator- info.txt

The order goes basically (as shows in that document):
  Henri, Brett, Jason (all at the same time)
  David B, David J (all at the same time)
  Jacek, Alan, Dain  (all at the same time)

And, yes, that was all done through voting and, no, I don't just get to pick -- I get one vote like everyone.

The three initial people brought in 2 people, the resulting 5 brought in 3 more people, the resulting 7 haven't brought in anyone yet but it's bound to happen any day now.

As far as "why", again I can't say why others but me voted they way they did. It was pretty much "hey how about so-and-so" followed by a bunch of +1s. No one has been proposed and denied.

I personally have proposed 3 people (Jacek, Alan, Dain) because we needed more people on the PPMC for legal oversite (IMHO, 5 +1s is the practical minumum). I didn't propose more because I thought it wise to let the "next wave" have a chance to propose people as they saw fit.

Hope that helps.

-David

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