Nagging. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote: > I am referring to the URI or referring to attributes. > For email there are: > http://axschema.org/contact/email > http://schema.openid.net/contact/email > http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/05/identity/claims/emailaddress > I have seen others used by OP's > schema.openid.net comes > from http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-types-1_0-02.html > the draft you are referring to but there is no host for that DNS name. > So a prerequisite for defining attribute types like this would be to define > the URI. > Some people want to use the openSocial schema, or EduPerson etc. > To make progress we need to get a WG chartered. > Yes Breno you can start nagging again:) > John B. > On 2009-09-16, at 2:29 PM, Chris Obdam wrote: > > John, > > The work at axschema on attribute value verification was part of Sxip not > covered under OIDF IPR. > > I don't think there is a problem with it but I don't know that it was > covered under Sxip's AX contribution to the OIDF. > > Perhaps Dick can fill us in on any IPR issues around the existing work. > > Ok > > At the moment we don't have URI for AX attributes never mind programatic > validation of the values. > > What do you mean with URI for AX attributes? > > This is partly related to the creation of a AX schema that we still need to > get a WG started for. > > I need to go back and work on the charter for that. > > Can I help with creating the charter? > > Cheers, > > Chris Obdam > Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation) > > > > John B. > > On 2009-09-16, at 8:58 AM, Chris Obdam wrote: > > Sorry, you're correct, I started at the > http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Attribute_Exchange_Extension_2_0 wiki page. I > got confused. > > Is there some kind of documentation on the previous discussions? > > The only thing I find missing at the moment is a description about the > validation types per type. And that's not really part of the draft but more > part of the axschema? > > But i'm not a experienced draft writer.. :-) > > /Chris > > Op 16 sep 2009, om 14:47 heeft Nat Sakimura het volgende geschreven: > > OK. It is not quite 2.0, but a profile of AX. Still, we should do it. > > The OpenID process is not as lightweight as I hope, unfortunately. > > It is kind of hard to kick start a WG here.... > > That is the problem. > > I am trying to change. > > But, I suppose we should not be hang up on it and we should start > discussing. > > =nat > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Chris Obdam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Nat, > > This one: > > http://step2.googlecode.com/svn/spec/attribute_exchange_validate/trunk/openid-attribute-exchange-validate-mode.html > > Cheers, > > Chris > > Op 16 sep 2009, om 13:59 heeft Nat Sakimura het volgende geschreven: > > Yes. Let us reopen. > > Which draft do you mean, Chris? > > =nat > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Chris Obdam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > Henrik, > > I, in a way, also represent a large OP from Holland. ±8 million users. > > We want to enable the RP to check the data. Based on that data the RP > > doesn't have to do that much checking anymore. > > I declare the discussion hereby opened ;-) > > @henrik Do you already use the AX 2 draft somewhere, maybe in a test > > environment? > > Cheers, > > Chris > > Op 16 sep 2009, om 11:53 heeft Henrik Biering het volgende geschreven: > > Chris, > > I called a session about this at the last IIW in May this year, but id > > did > > not attract much interest. The impression, that I got from this session > > and > > from other inputs is that the community in general wants to handle trust > > issues completely out of band (federated approach) - with PAPE as a > > partial > > exception to the rule. > > Representing an OpenID provider with focus on identity proofing coupled > > with usercentricity and privacy (indeed a very tricky combination) I > > would > > be more than happy to have this discussion reopened - as we have > > examples > > where generic out of band OP-RP trust is clearly not acceptable to > > users. > > Henrik Biering > > =henrik > > @netamia > > > > Chris Obdam skrev: > > John, Allen, > > Thank you for your answers. With validation I mean the OpenID Attribute > > Exchange Validate Mode. > > In this spec there's a validation required per attribute. > > > > "openid.ax.validation.email=http://example.org/validation/token_via_email > > Are there already validation 'types', like 'token_via_email', described > > in axschema (draft version?) or somewhere else? > > The AXSchema Google Group doesn't seem to be very active anymore. > > And of course: how can I help to start finalizing the draft? :-) > > Cheers, > > Chris Obdam > > Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation) > > > Op 15 sep 2009, om 19:43 heeft John Bradley het volgende geschreven: > > Currently the AX 2.0 work is stalled. I don't know of any other list. > > Sxip was driving it, but is no more. > > Some people are using schema form axshema and others are using URI > > from > > openid.org in AX 1.0. > > John B. > > On 2009-09-15, at 12:07 PM, Chris Obdam wrote: > > Hi! > > Is there a different list for the discussion about Attribute Exchange > > 2.0? > > A have some question regards that draft: > > • What is the current state? > > • Is there a axschema draft for using this version, especially the > > validation part. > > • We want to start validating in Holland with several large > > (internet) companies. And we want to start using the validation bit. > > Of > > course this is a draft, maybe we can participate in the discussion? > > Cheers, > > Chris Obdam > > Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation) > > _______________________________________________ > > specs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > _______________________________________________ > > specs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > _______________________________________________ > > specs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > > > -- > > Nat Sakimura (=nat) > > http://www.sakimura.org/en/ > > > > > > -- > > Nat Sakimura (=nat) > > http://www.sakimura.org/en/ > > _______________________________________________ > > specs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > specs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > >
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