Sorry it slipped down the priority list with all of the GSA stuff.

John B.
On 2009-09-16, at 4:14 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:

Nagging.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John Bradley <[email protected]> wrote:
I am referring to the URI or referring to attributes.
For email there are:
http://axschema.org/contact/email
http://schema.openid.net/contact/email
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2005/05/identity/claims/emailaddress
I have seen others used by OP's
schema.openid.net comes
from http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-types-1_0-02.html
the draft you are referring to but there is no host for that DNS name. So a prerequisite for defining attribute types like this would be to define
the URI.
Some people want to use the openSocial schema, or EduPerson etc.
To make progress we need to get a WG chartered.
Yes Breno you can start nagging again:)
John B.
On 2009-09-16, at 2:29 PM, Chris Obdam wrote:

John,

The work at axschema on attribute value verification was part of Sxip not
covered under OIDF IPR.

I don't think there is a problem with it but I don't know that it was
covered under Sxip's AX contribution to the OIDF.

Perhaps Dick can fill us in on any IPR issues around the existing work.

Ok

At the moment we don't have URI for AX attributes never mind programatic
validation of the values.

What do you mean with URI for AX attributes?

This is partly related to the creation of a AX schema that we still need to
get a WG started for.

I need to go back and work on the charter for that.

Can I help with creating the charter?

Cheers,

Chris Obdam
Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation)



John B.

On 2009-09-16, at 8:58 AM, Chris Obdam wrote:

Sorry, you're correct, I started at the
http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID_Attribute_Exchange_Extension_2_0 wiki page. I
got confused.

Is there some kind of documentation on the previous discussions?

The only thing I find missing at the moment is a description about the validation types per type. And that's not really part of the draft but more
part of the axschema?

But i'm not a experienced draft writer.. :-)

/Chris

Op 16 sep 2009, om 14:47 heeft Nat Sakimura het volgende geschreven:

OK. It is not quite 2.0, but a profile of AX. Still, we should do it.

The OpenID process is not as lightweight as I hope, unfortunately.

It is kind of hard to kick start a WG here....

That is the problem.

I am trying to change.

But, I suppose we should not be hang up on it and we should start
discussing.

=nat

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Chris Obdam <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Nat,

This one:

http://step2.googlecode.com/svn/spec/attribute_exchange_validate/trunk/openid-attribute-exchange-validate-mode.html

Cheers,

Chris

Op 16 sep 2009, om 13:59 heeft Nat Sakimura het volgende geschreven:

Yes. Let us reopen.

Which draft do you mean, Chris?

=nat

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Chris Obdam <[email protected]>

wrote:

Henrik,

I, in a way, also represent a large OP from Holland. ±8 million users.

We want to enable the RP to check the data. Based on that data the RP

doesn't have to do that much checking anymore.

I declare the discussion hereby opened ;-)

@henrik  Do you already use the AX 2 draft somewhere, maybe in a test

environment?

Cheers,

Chris

Op 16 sep 2009, om 11:53 heeft Henrik Biering het volgende geschreven:

Chris,

I called a session about this at the last IIW in May this year, but id

did

not attract much interest. The impression, that I got from this session

and

from other inputs is that the community in general wants to handle trust

issues completely out of band (federated approach) - with PAPE as a

partial

exception to the rule.

Representing an OpenID provider with focus on identity proofing coupled

with usercentricity and privacy (indeed a very tricky combination) I

would

be more than happy to have this discussion reopened - as we have

examples

where generic out of band OP-RP trust is clearly not acceptable to

users.

Henrik Biering

=henrik

@netamia



Chris Obdam skrev:

John, Allen,

Thank you for your answers. With validation I mean the OpenID Attribute

Exchange Validate Mode.

In this spec there's a validation required per attribute.



"openid.ax.validation.email=http://example.org/validation/ token_via_email

Are there already validation 'types', like 'token_via_email', described

in axschema (draft version?) or somewhere else?

The AXSchema Google Group doesn't seem to be very active anymore.

And of course: how can I help to start finalizing the draft? :-)

Cheers,

Chris Obdam

Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation)


Op 15 sep 2009, om 19:43 heeft John Bradley het volgende geschreven:

Currently the AX 2.0 work is stalled. I don't know of any other list.

Sxip was driving it, but is no more.

Some people are using schema form axshema and others are using URI

from

openid.org in AX 1.0.

John B.

On 2009-09-15, at 12:07 PM, Chris Obdam wrote:

Hi!

Is there a different list for the discussion about Attribute Exchange

2.0?

A have some question regards that draft:

• What is the current state?

• Is there a axschema draft for using this version, especially the

validation part.

• We want to start validating in Holland with several large

(internet) companies. And we want to start using the validation bit.

Of

course this is a draft, maybe we can participate in the discussion?

Cheers,

Chris Obdam

Stichting OpenID NL (Dutch OpenID foundation)

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