Actually Felix Everybody is waiting for you to write such a tool. I don't think anybody has scene your Disney Animation Movie Credits but me.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Really? My point is, why have such good built-on classes to support the > building of everything from simple animations to complex visualisations if > it is practically impossible to do so? > > On 24 November 2014 at 21:02, Tom Eugelink <t...@tbee.org> wrote: > > > I do not think that JavaFX is aiming at replacing flash, HTML and > > javascript are doing a great job there, hence animations are not equally > > important as they were for flash. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On 24-11-2014 10:46, Felix Bembrick wrote: > > > >> I am surprised more people have not expressed an opinion on this. To > me, > >> it seems absolutely *vital* to the long term (or any term) success of > >> JavaFX. > >> > >> Haven't any of you ever programmed in Flash? Can you imagine trying to > >> create any of those complex (or even the simple) animations and > >> visualisations *without* a visual editor and by doing it code alone? It > >> wouldn't have been practical (read possible) and similarly, and with > >> JavaFX > >> having even richer features, to do this "by hand". > >> > >> To me, this is the reason why we haven't seen any great > >> animations/visualisations/applications using JavaFX and we probably > never > >> will until a visual animation editor is available. Specifying and > >> controlling the motion and appearance of numerous complex objects and > >> their > >> transitions relying exclusively on code would not be possible for even > the > >> "gunnest" JFX coder... > >> > >> On 18 November 2014 at 02:48, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> I’m afraid at this time there are no plans for adding an > >>> animation/transition effect editor to Scene Builder, certainly not in > the > >>> short-term. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Richard > >>> > >>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com > > > >>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Java applets were the first "programs" to run inside a web browser and > >>>> > >>> for > >>> > >>>> a (little) while they were flavour of the month. > >>>> > >>>> But then along came Flash which had several advantages such as faster > >>>> > >>> load > >>> > >>>> times, consistent loads and antialiased fonts/graphics and soon > >>>> > >>> completely > >>> > >>>> surpassed applets. > >>>> > >>>> But the MAIN reason why Flash was initially so successful and went on > >>>> for > >>>> years and years of domination is that the Flash tools had an > >>>> Animation/Timeline Editor pretty much from the beginning. This > enabled > >>>> even a novice to drag images around and draw the path they wanted them > >>>> to > >>>> move along, add all sorts of bouncing effects and sounds and the > result > >>>> > >>> was > >>> > >>>> the birth of the online greeting card company. > >>>> > >>>> But Flash soon went on to be so much more. As the Adobe tools > improved, > >>>> > >>> so > >>> > >>>> did the SWFs and soon entire websites were written in Flash. > >>>> > >>>> Meanwhile, applet programmers had absolutely nothing remotely similar > >>>> and > >>>> had to try (and I stress try) to tediously hand code any animations > and > >>>> transitions and effects and I don't think it ever worked. > >>>> > >>>> Fast forward 15-20 years and now we have JavaFX which doesn't need to > >>>> run > >>>> in the browser, has even more features than Flash, uses hardware > >>>> acceleration for superior performance, has a wide range of built-in > >>>> animations, transitions and effects but STILL we have to hand code any > >>>> animation/transitions. > >>>> > >>>> This is INCREDIBLY inefficient and unless Scene Builder incorporates a > >>>> powerful, sophisticated animation/transition and effect editor VERY, > >>>> VERY > >>>> SOON I fear that the advanced graphics features are never going to be > >>>> > >>> used > >>> > >>>> to their full potential (much to the detriment of JavaFX itself). > >>>> > >>>> Does anyone know if one is in the pipeline? I see this as one of the > >>>> > >>> most > >>> > >>>> vital features for the JavaFX ecosystem to achieve more penetration > and, > >>>> eventually, survive. > >>>> > >>>> Felix > >>>> > >>> > >>> > > >
