thats funny -Scene! boy I can't spell On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Mike <mikeg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually Felix Everybody is waiting for you to write such a tool. I don't > think anybody has scene your Disney Animation Movie Credits but me. > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Really? My point is, why have such good built-on classes to support the >> building of everything from simple animations to complex visualisations if >> it is practically impossible to do so? >> >> On 24 November 2014 at 21:02, Tom Eugelink <t...@tbee.org> wrote: >> >> > I do not think that JavaFX is aiming at replacing flash, HTML and >> > javascript are doing a great job there, hence animations are not equally >> > important as they were for flash. >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > >> > >> > On 24-11-2014 10:46, Felix Bembrick wrote: >> > >> >> I am surprised more people have not expressed an opinion on this. To >> me, >> >> it seems absolutely *vital* to the long term (or any term) success of >> >> JavaFX. >> >> >> >> Haven't any of you ever programmed in Flash? Can you imagine trying to >> >> create any of those complex (or even the simple) animations and >> >> visualisations *without* a visual editor and by doing it code alone? >> It >> >> wouldn't have been practical (read possible) and similarly, and with >> >> JavaFX >> >> having even richer features, to do this "by hand". >> >> >> >> To me, this is the reason why we haven't seen any great >> >> animations/visualisations/applications using JavaFX and we probably >> never >> >> will until a visual animation editor is available. Specifying and >> >> controlling the motion and appearance of numerous complex objects and >> >> their >> >> transitions relying exclusively on code would not be possible for even >> the >> >> "gunnest" JFX coder... >> >> >> >> On 18 November 2014 at 02:48, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I’m afraid at this time there are no plans for adding an >> >>> animation/transition effect editor to Scene Builder, certainly not in >> the >> >>> short-term. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> Richard >> >>> >> >>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Felix Bembrick < >> felix.bembr...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Java applets were the first "programs" to run inside a web browser >> and >> >>>> >> >>> for >> >>> >> >>>> a (little) while they were flavour of the month. >> >>>> >> >>>> But then along came Flash which had several advantages such as faster >> >>>> >> >>> load >> >>> >> >>>> times, consistent loads and antialiased fonts/graphics and soon >> >>>> >> >>> completely >> >>> >> >>>> surpassed applets. >> >>>> >> >>>> But the MAIN reason why Flash was initially so successful and went on >> >>>> for >> >>>> years and years of domination is that the Flash tools had an >> >>>> Animation/Timeline Editor pretty much from the beginning. This >> enabled >> >>>> even a novice to drag images around and draw the path they wanted >> them >> >>>> to >> >>>> move along, add all sorts of bouncing effects and sounds and the >> result >> >>>> >> >>> was >> >>> >> >>>> the birth of the online greeting card company. >> >>>> >> >>>> But Flash soon went on to be so much more. As the Adobe tools >> improved, >> >>>> >> >>> so >> >>> >> >>>> did the SWFs and soon entire websites were written in Flash. >> >>>> >> >>>> Meanwhile, applet programmers had absolutely nothing remotely similar >> >>>> and >> >>>> had to try (and I stress try) to tediously hand code any animations >> and >> >>>> transitions and effects and I don't think it ever worked. >> >>>> >> >>>> Fast forward 15-20 years and now we have JavaFX which doesn't need to >> >>>> run >> >>>> in the browser, has even more features than Flash, uses hardware >> >>>> acceleration for superior performance, has a wide range of built-in >> >>>> animations, transitions and effects but STILL we have to hand code >> any >> >>>> animation/transitions. >> >>>> >> >>>> This is INCREDIBLY inefficient and unless Scene Builder incorporates >> a >> >>>> powerful, sophisticated animation/transition and effect editor VERY, >> >>>> VERY >> >>>> SOON I fear that the advanced graphics features are never going to be >> >>>> >> >>> used >> >>> >> >>>> to their full potential (much to the detriment of JavaFX itself). >> >>>> >> >>>> Does anyone know if one is in the pipeline? I see this as one of the >> >>>> >> >>> most >> >>> >> >>>> vital features for the JavaFX ecosystem to achieve more penetration >> and, >> >>>> eventually, survive. >> >>>> >> >>>> Felix >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >
