I don't know what all the rancor is about here...

Regardless of the feature facts, it does look like cdrecord already  
does what cdrdao does, and the differing features could be added to  
cdrecord.

So perhaps cdrecord should be extended instead of adding yet another  
tool?

/dale

On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Torrey McMahon wrote:

> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Torrey McMahon <Torrey.McMahon at Sun.COM> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>> What programs do _need_ cdrdao that cannot use cdrecord also?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Both cdrdao and cdrecord support DAO mode.
>>>>> but cdrdao has several features that missing from cdrecord.
>>>>>  1.  extract hidden Audio Tracks that live in the pregap of  
>>>>> track 1.
>>>>>  2.  provide more precise control for audio when record by using  
>>>>> toc file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The second claim is definitely wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many audio CDs exist that use the pregap of track 1 "feature"?
>>>>
>>> Enough that people want to use it. Do we really need a formal list  
>>> and
>>> if so how many items is good enough? And why is this even a  
>>> question?
>>>
>>
>> Well, I do not have such a CD and if I would even like to implement  
>> the festure
>> in cdda2wav I would first need to create such a CD using cdrecord.
>>
>> The main ussue is that it seems that only because cdrdao is harder  
>> to use than
>> cdrecord (because it exposes a cryptic interface to the user while  
>> cdrecord
>> hides this from it's users and just makes things work) it seems  
>> that people
>> pelieve that cdrdao gives more functionality but this is definitely  
>> not true.
>
> First, here's a list of CD's that have pregap info.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregap
>
> Second, I'm confused with your logic, Does cdrecord allow you to do  
> the
> two things in the text above? If not then you can't say that cdrdao
> doesn't provide more functionality.
>
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