John writes:
> I don't know why we all need to speculate on what is going to happen on SXDE, 
> SXCE, and opensolaris.  Is it too much to ask for somebody in charge to build 
> a development roadmap that is both accurate, detailed (with real dates), and 
> maintained?  Even if SXCE and openSolaris developers are two different 
> groups, can't the be some visible synergy between them?  I'm on a discussion 
> board at opensolaris.org that is labeled "OpenSolaris Forums", yet when I 
> bring up an issue the response is, "oh, we aren't that openSolaris, you want 
> to talk to the other Opensolaris people".  What the hell?  Is the community 
> fractured?  If it is, it should unite quickly because it's very confusing to 
> the rest of us (outsiders) and not at all reassuring.

I think your confusion might be rooted on the distinction between
"OpenSolaris the distribution" and "OpenSolaris the community."

Sun produces a specific (and commercial) distribution of the
OpenSolaris code called "OpenSolaris."  This distribution (like all
distributions) is an independent group choosing what things to bundle
up and deliver as a system.  The home for that is www.opensolaris.com
(.com, not .org), and the people involved are mostly the Indiana
project team, which is why I pointed you to them for questions about
roadmaps and upgrade plans.  Those sorts of things are distribution
issues, not source issues.

Sun used to produce a distribution called "Solaris Express Developer
Edition" (SXDE), but that work is finished now that there's an
OpenSolaris distribution.  At some point in the more distant future,
"Solaris Express Community Edition" (SXCE) will also go away.

There's also "OpenSolaris the community," which represents all of the
projects going on within the community and the source code we're all
sharing, and that's typically discussed on this list.  Some of those
projects are intently focused on Indiana (that is, "the OpenSolaris
distribution"), but others are not.  There are more distributions than
just Sun's.

There's naturally some confusion here, and other than trying to point
folks in the right direction, I don't know what to do about it.  Sun
owns the "OpenSolaris" trademark and is free to do what it wishes with
that mark (such as producing a new distribution under the same name as
the existing community), even if it leaves some to wonder what
"opensolaris-discuss" actually means.

In this case, I don't think that opensolaris-discuss is the right
place to go if you want to talk about planning issues related to one
vendor's distribution.  The right folks might be listening here, but
they might not.  It's a wide-ranging and noisy list.

(In general, I'd say that the more targeted a list you can find, the
better off you'll be.)

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