Shawn Walker wrote:
> John wrote:
>> Ken,
>> That is pretty much my impression as well, that even SXCE is a walking dead 
>> man.
>> I am okay with the SXDE/SXCE branches getting pruned as long as Sun provides 
>> a method to "live upgrade" from them to OpenSolaris.  If they fail to do 
>> that, then SXDE/SXCE users were abandoned.  The machine with SXDE is in use 
>> as a development server -- I can't just wipe it and reinstall openSolaris 
>> 2008/05 (or /11)
> 
> As has been noted in the past, the SXDE and SXCE releases were 
> *development* releases.  That means that they were not fully supported 
> releases.  That's my understanding anyway...
> 

I would state it a bit differently.

SXCE has been, and still is for the moment, the distribution used for 
development of the operating system.

SXDE was a repackaging of SXCE to provide a somewhat easier-to-install 
platform for application development atop the OpenSolaris technology. 
It was a stopgap until the distribution known as OpenSolaris (aka 
Project Indiana) could be built, which is meant to be targeted more 
directly at that market.

At this point in time we have no specific plans for upgrades from SXCE 
to OpenSolaris.  That doesn't mean we won't, it just isn't a priority 
for development of the distribution right now, as it's primarily 
targeted at attracting people who haven't used Solaris before, who 
obviously don't face this problem.  Sometime in 2009 we expect that the 
OpenSolaris distro will supercede SXCE as the distro used by Sun's 
engineering staff for development of OS technology.  It may be that 
we'll need a transition/upgrade tool for that to happen, so we'll have 
to think about this there.  There's a similar question of how (or 
whether) to upgrade Solaris 10 users, which has mostly the same 
technical problems, but the time frame for that is yet further out.  In 
the meantime, Ed Pilatowicz posted a pretty detailed blog entry about 
how to transition:

http://blogs.sun.com/edp/entry/moving_from_nevada_and_live

The most helpful roadmap I can point you at is the one we discussed with 
the community a couple of months ago, see the Overview presentation on

http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Indiana#OpenSolaris_Community_Strategy_Planning_Meeting

I believe we will be having another community town hall session pretty 
soon where more discussion of the roadmap might occur.

Dave

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