On 09/04/2014 03:36 AM, Dean Troyer wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com
> <mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Nikola Đipanov <ndipa...@redhat.com
>     <mailto:ndipa...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
>         The reason many features including my own may not make the FF is not
>         because there was not enough buy in from the core team (let's be
>         completely honest - I have 3+ other core members working for the
>         same
>         company that are by nature of things easier to convince), but
>         because of
>         any of the following:
> 
> 
>     I find the statement about having multiple cores at the same company
>     very concerning. To quote Mark McLoughlin, "It is assumed that all
>     core team members are wearing their "upstream hat" and aren't there
>     merely to represent their employers interests" [0]. Your statement
>     appears to be in direct conflict with Mark's idea of what core
>     reviewer is, and idea that IMHO is one of the basic tenants of
>     OpenStack development.
> 
> 
> FWIW I read Nikola's 'by nature of things' statement to be more of a
> representation of the higher-bandwith communication and relationships
> with co-workers rather than "for the company".  I hope my reading is not
> wrong.
> 

Thanks for not reading too much into that sentence - yes, this is quite
close to what I meant, and used it to make a point of how I think we are
focusing on the wrong thing (as already mentioned on the direct response
to Joe).

N.

> I know a while back some of the things I was trying to land in multiple
> projects really benefited from having both the relationships and
> high-bandwidth communication to 4 PTLs, three of whom were in the same
> room at the time.
> 
> There is the perception problem, exactly what Mark also wrote about,
> when that happens off-line, and I think it is our responsibility (those
> advocating the reviews, and those responding to them) to note the
> outcome of those discussions on the record somewhere, IMO preferably in
> Gerrit.
> 
> dt
> 
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> 
> Dean Troyer
> dtro...@gmail.com <mailto:dtro...@gmail.com>
> 
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