On 09/04/2014 03:36 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Joe Gordon <joe.gord...@gmail.com > <mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Nikola Đipanov <ndipa...@redhat.com > <mailto:ndipa...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > The reason many features including my own may not make the FF is not > because there was not enough buy in from the core team (let's be > completely honest - I have 3+ other core members working for the > same > company that are by nature of things easier to convince), but > because of > any of the following: > > > I find the statement about having multiple cores at the same company > very concerning. To quote Mark McLoughlin, "It is assumed that all > core team members are wearing their "upstream hat" and aren't there > merely to represent their employers interests" [0]. Your statement > appears to be in direct conflict with Mark's idea of what core > reviewer is, and idea that IMHO is one of the basic tenants of > OpenStack development. > > > FWIW I read Nikola's 'by nature of things' statement to be more of a > representation of the higher-bandwith communication and relationships > with co-workers rather than "for the company". I hope my reading is not > wrong. >
Thanks for not reading too much into that sentence - yes, this is quite close to what I meant, and used it to make a point of how I think we are focusing on the wrong thing (as already mentioned on the direct response to Joe). N. > I know a while back some of the things I was trying to land in multiple > projects really benefited from having both the relationships and > high-bandwidth communication to 4 PTLs, three of whom were in the same > room at the time. > > There is the perception problem, exactly what Mark also wrote about, > when that happens off-line, and I think it is our responsibility (those > advocating the reviews, and those responding to them) to note the > outcome of those discussions on the record somewhere, IMO preferably in > Gerrit. > > dt > > -- > > Dean Troyer > dtro...@gmail.com <mailto:dtro...@gmail.com> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev