I'm in general agreement here. The EC2 team is new to the process side, and is a small team. +1 for moving forward with Alex here.
I'm +1 on Tony for Stable Maint. Though I also think that we should rollback any misgivings about election officials running for PTL slots. Of our 40 races only 7 (?) were actual elections. Election officials are chosen well before nominations open up, so when a presumed status quo is not, I don't know why we'd want responsible members of the community sitting on the sidelines. Winstackers I can go either way. The output is a library that the hyperv driver in nova / cinder / neutron use. Whether or not it is officially OpenStack seems almost moot. It will be a dependency of those projects either way. On 03/21/2016 05:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Doug Hellmann wrote: >> I won't be able to make the TC meeting this week because of travel, >> so I wanted to lay out my thoughts on the three PTL-less projects >> based on the outcome of the recent election (EC2-API, Winstackers, >> and Stable Maintenance). >> [...] > > First of all, I think we need to recognize that with more than 50 > project teams, it's pretty likely there will always be people missing > the nomination boat for one reason or another. Small and understaffed > projects just make it even more likely, as the pool of candidates there > is so small. I actually find it easier to excuse EC2API and Winstackers > handful of contributors for missing it in Mitaka, than to excuse Magnum > and its hundred of contributors for missing it in Liberty. > >> The EC2-API project doesn't appear to be very actively worked on. >> There is one very recent commit from an Oslo team member, another >> couple from a few days before, and then the next one is almost a >> month old. Given the lack of activity, if no team member has >> volunteered to be PTL I think we should remove the project from the >> official list for lack of interest. > > The EC2API project is a bit of a corner case: something we want to exist > as an official project but which is critically understaffed. Missing the > PTL nomination boat is more a sign of this understaffing than anything > else. I suspect we still very much want this to exist, so I'm not > convinced we should take this opportunity to remove the project. > > If anything, I hope this situation that may remind the various > stakeholders depending on that functionality to be present and > maintained that it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Open source software is > not magic ponies giving you free-as-in-beer software. You need the > people who depend on the feature to support (directly or indirectly) its > maintenance. > >> The Winstackers project is much more active in the repository, but >> there doesn't seem to be much traffic on the mailing list. It's not >> clear why no one signed up to be PTL, and I couldn't find a notice >> that the current PTL is not running. I'm tempted to suggest removing >> Winstackers from the official project list for lack of participation >> in project governance, but perhaps a probation period is in order >> since it's a relatively new team. Probation would depend on having >> the team find a PTL volunteer, of course. > > I suspect this one is more of a classic "didn't pay attention" case. > Since I don't think we need Winstackers as an official project as much > as we need EC2API, we should definitely have a discussion about whether > it's still worth keeping as an official project or if it would be as > good to just make it an unofficial project. > >> The situation with the Stable Maintenance team is ironically shaky. >> The outgoing PTL has entered the Nova PTL election, though he has >> said he would take up the Stable team work again if he does not >> become Nova PTL. That election will not be over until 24 March, so >> I think we should wait before taking any action. If Matt becomes >> Nova PTL, and no other volunteer steps forward, I will take on the >> responsibilities, though I do want to keep the Stable team separate >> from the Release team. That said, I would very much prefer to have >> someone else be the Stable team PTL so I hope we can find a volunteer. > > The situation with stable maintenance is a bit of a corner case too. > Matt would have stayed PTL for stable if he wasn't elected for Nova, and > Tony, being an election official, couldn't really throw his name in the > PTL election hat at the last minute. I think this is a case where the TC > looking at the potential names and making their choice will be working > as intended. > -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: [email protected]?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
