On 12 October 2016 at 08:53, John Davidge <john.davi...@rackspace.com> wrote: > On 10/12/16, 11:18 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > >>On 10/12/2016 11:59 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >>> >>> PTGs happen in more cost-effective locations, airport hubs with cheaper >>> hotels, which should lower the cost of attending. Yes, I'm pretty sure >>> traveling to Atlanta downtown for a week will be cheaper than going to >>> Barcelona, Boston or Sydney downtown for a week. >> >>[...] >> >>And while PTG will surely be cheaper than the Summit, the Summit is not >>going >>away (for marketing, management, few developer representatives), so the >>total >>expense is unlikely to drop IMO. > > Yes, I've been unsure about the cost justification for the PTG too. > Hosting in a less expensive city will probably result in the PTG being > slightly cheaper to attend than the Summit, but with ops feedback and so > many other important activities missing, many developers will need to > attend both the Summit and the PTG to be fully involved. > > Cost of PTG < Cost of Summit > > But: > > (Cost of PTG + Cost of Summit) > Cost of Summit > > Also, unless I've missed something, we still don't know the registration > fees for the PTG and the new Summit do we? Last I remember, there was talk > of a registration fee for the PTG, and then a Summit discount for PTG > attendees. Is that still the plan? > > Surely the PTG will need to be free to attend, otherwise isn't it better > for project teams to simply shift our existing mid-cycles to the PTG > timeframe with an altered focus to save money? Genuine question.