pon., 23 mar 2020 o 08:50 Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> napisał(a):

> Imho, we should switch everything to github.  I wouldn't even bother
> paying for a domain, i think something like ops4j.github.org is enough.
>

+1.02

regards
Grzegorz Grzybek


>
>
> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <toni.men...@rebaze.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> *TL/TR:*
>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used
>> atm).
>>
>> *Long version:*
>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go with
>> OPS4J in general.
>>
>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get
>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was
>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the
>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including
>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, Pax
>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals
>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles
>> got to life.. but oh well.
>>
>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and exam
>> - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is just
>> that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc.
>>
>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that come
>> to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options):
>>
>>    - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the
>>    Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this means
>>    I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too btw).
>>    It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities backing
>>    this anyway.
>>    - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a clear
>>    who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github Sponsoring to
>>    spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control.
>>    - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an entity
>>    that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not sure of
>>    this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance.
>>    - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache.
>>    Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property)
>>
>> wdyt?
>> Toni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer
>> culture*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Niclas
>>>
>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀).
>>>
>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them.
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Everyone,
>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for renewal.
>>>> And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I no longer
>>>> participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. But where
>>>> to??
>>>>
>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to a
>>>> trusted community member.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and will
>>>> simply follow what you all can agree on.
>>>>
>>>> ops4j.org
>>>> ops4j.net
>>>> ops4j.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Niclas
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