Dear Michael…. Thank you for your wisdom and practical examples is wisdom in action.
There is always more to learn for me 😊 Romy Shovelton Executive Director Wikima and The 5* Tyddyn Retreat - Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages www.walescottageandvenue.com [email protected] +44 7767 370739 Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Feb 2022, at 10:49, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Bhavesh, > > The Law of Two Feet (this is, of course, no Law but tongue of cheeck speak of > the Man with the Hat) has not felt to me as a reminder to be responsible for > where I want to be. > In my intro to the process I say in the role of facilitator: "And here", > pointing to the large poster on the wall of the space or on a large pinboard > on the edge of the outer circle or floating above the crowd of 2108 supported > by large balloons, have a look here >> https://openspaceworldscape.org/events/165-jetzt-meine-leidenschaft-meine-verantwortung-ueber-die-tagung-hinaus-now-my-passion-my-responsibility-beyond-the-conference > > "is the Law of Two Feet which has to be utterly adhered to as it is a LAW: > I honor a group with my absence if I neither learn nor contribute something. > If I am learning something I stay, if I am contributindg something I also > stay. > But if neither, then I'll do the group and especially myself the favor of > taking my feet... ", and here I imitate the Man by looking at my feet for 3 > seconds lift them and run a short distance in front of the assembled crowd... > continuing:"... and move to a space which is more productive for me... or to > take a nap." (At this point folks usually laugh out loud, incited by my > awkward running style) > > Now all this has nothing to do with taking responsibility for where I want to > be. I am focusing on this because I as facilitator am not in any way > responsible for what anyone does, under the assumption that everyone is > naturally "responsible"... and I adress it in the systemic context we are in > when in an os event, and that it is selforganisation all the time. > > Regarding space invaders - which I rarely have encountered probably because > I am such an awsome event myself, especially when totally present and at the > same time invisible - I do intervene. > > My first intervention is to do nothing and wait (at this point I understand > why I am being paid for this job). If the crowd is kind of struck and silent, > also waiting, I still wait. Usually, this intervention does get addressed by > a participant, which causes another participant to react... and results in a > short exchange in which usually someone then gets the space invader to see > that the group does not oust him. > > If no participant intervenes and I have counted to 10, I ask: "Who else feels > like Charlie?" This always works, one or several other participants will say > something. The main advantage of participants participating in this is that > the space invader immidiately sees that he/she is still part of the group, > not an outsider. > > Another observation I have made is that some space invasions are aggressive > while others are certainly productive but not executed completely. > > At one event, one participant got up to introduce his issue (others had > posted issues before him) and said: "I have the most important 5 issues that > need to be worked on!" and deposited his 5 issue sheets in the center. > Here I intervened right away and reminded him that the issues have to be > announced and posted on the Bulletin Board and that he shoulc say his name. > Somewhat nervous he picke up his 5 issues, spoke to them and then posted them > on the Bulletin Board. > Later in the day he approached me and said: "Michael, nobody signed in for my > issues! This was an important lesson for me." > > So, its not about what is allowed or not. Its about how space and time for > selforganisation are expanded right then and here. Thats what I recommend > facilitators to focus on. > > The utmost the facilitator can do in case stuff gets out of control and > nothing works is to leave the space. > I have experienced this twice in os events. > First event was the gathering of 300 Imams and Rabbis in Sevilla where HO > facilitated and I was his assistant. The participants kept posting isssues > without end and even after allocating 15 minutes more they kept going. When > the time was over, HO turned to me and spoke into the mikrophone "Michael, > please take over!" and left the room. It took only minutes that the > participants stopped posting issues and moved into the phase to walk up to > the Bulletin Board to sign up for issues they wanted to work on. > > The second example was an os with facilitators from different approaches in > which I was participant. > In the closing circle of the first day, one participant insisted on a > discussion of a particularly critical aspect. He ignored the facilitators > suggestion to post his issue for a session after dinner or the next day. No, > he wanted to continue. The facilitator pointed to the schedule and the amount > of time left. At the end of the agreed upon time he stood up and left the > room. > Two minutes later, the entire group left, too. > > What about other stories on The Law and Space Invadors? > > Right now I am returning to the breakfast table where we are talking about > the urgent recommendation of the German Government to all German citizens > presently in the Ukraine to leave the Ukraine and return home immediately. > > War? > > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > >> Am 20.02.2022 um 08:18 schrieb Bhavesh Patel via OSList: >> It's an interesting one because: >> * The Law of Two Feet - is about us choosing to take responsibility >> for where we want to be. >> * Space Invaders - is the idea that NOT everything is allowed, and if >> it feels like someone is controlling the space for another, then the >> facilitator does something about it. >> So it's an interesting grey area between when it is more about the Law and >> when it is more about Space Invaders and stepping in... and who is the >> facilitator when it comes to this loop anyway? >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 03:58, Harold Shinsato via OSList >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> The OSList is intended to truly be "whoever comes is the right people". >> The "Law of Two Feet" is hopefully something we take seriously here. >> I wish there was a feature in the OSList where you could "walk away" >> from a conversation without having to leave the OSList. Well, you could >> just ignore the conversations where you are neither learning nor >> contributing. >> Another option most email systems have ways are message filters that >> could automatically delete what you don't want. That is an option. With >> a little effort that would be a way to employ "The Law of Two Feet" or >> the "Law of Mobility". >> Best wishes to all! >> Harold >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
