Really, very cute stories, best learning material! This list is a treasure! Thanks Michael, thanks all!
Gentza Eleder Mundaka Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ------- Original Message ------- Em domingo, 20 de fevereiro de 2022 às 11:56, Romy Shovelton via OSList <[email protected]> escreveu: > Dear Michael…. Thank you for your wisdom and practical examples is wisdom in > action. > > There is always more to learn for me 😊 > > Romy Shovelton > > Executive Director > > Wikima and > > The 5* Tyddyn Retreat - > > Mid Wales Venue & Holiday Cottages > > www.walescottageandvenue.com > > [email protected] > > +44 7767 370739 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 20 Feb 2022, at 10:49, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Dear Bhavesh, > > > > The Law of Two Feet (this is, of course, no Law but tongue of cheeck speak > > of the Man with the Hat) has not felt to me as a reminder to be responsible > > for where I want to be. > > > > In my intro to the process I say in the role of facilitator: "And here", > > pointing to the large poster on the wall of the space or on a large > > pinboard on the edge of the outer circle or floating above the crowd of > > 2108 supported by large balloons, have a look here > > > > > https://openspaceworldscape.org/events/165-jetzt-meine-leidenschaft-meine-verantwortung-ueber-die-tagung-hinaus-now-my-passion-my-responsibility-beyond-the-conference > > > > "is the Law of Two Feet which has to be utterly adhered to as it is a LAW: > > > > I honor a group with my absence if I neither learn nor contribute > > something. If I am learning something I stay, if I am contributindg > > something I also stay. > > > > But if neither, then I'll do the group and especially myself the favor of > > taking my feet... ", and here I imitate the Man by looking at my feet for 3 > > seconds lift them and run a short distance in front of the assembled > > crowd... continuing:"... and move to a space which is more productive for > > me... or to take a nap." (At this point folks usually laugh out loud, > > incited by my awkward running style) > > > > Now all this has nothing to do with taking responsibility for where I want > > to be. I am focusing on this because I as facilitator am not in any way > > responsible for what anyone does, under the assumption that everyone is > > naturally "responsible"... and I adress it in the systemic context we are > > in when in an os event, and that it is selforganisation all the time. > > > > Regarding space invaders - which I rarely have encountered probably because > > I am such an awsome event myself, especially when totally present and at > > the same time invisible - I do intervene. > > > > My first intervention is to do nothing and wait (at this point I understand > > why I am being paid for this job). If the crowd is kind of struck and > > silent, also waiting, I still wait. Usually, this intervention does get > > addressed by a participant, which causes another participant to react... > > and results in a short exchange in which usually someone then gets the > > space invader to see that the group does not oust him. > > > > If no participant intervenes and I have counted to 10, I ask: "Who else > > feels like Charlie?" This always works, one or several other participants > > will say something. The main advantage of participants participating in > > this is that the space invader immidiately sees that he/she is still part > > of the group, not an outsider. > > > > Another observation I have made is that some space invasions are aggressive > > while others are certainly productive but not executed completely. > > > > At one event, one participant got up to introduce his issue (others had > > posted issues before him) and said: "I have the most important 5 issues > > that need to be worked on!" and deposited his 5 issue sheets in the center. > > > > Here I intervened right away and reminded him that the issues have to be > > announced and posted on the Bulletin Board and that he shoulc say his name. > > Somewhat nervous he picke up his 5 issues, spoke to them and then posted > > them on the Bulletin Board. > > > > Later in the day he approached me and said: "Michael, nobody signed in for > > my issues! This was an important lesson for me." > > > > So, its not about what is allowed or not. Its about how space and time for > > selforganisation are expanded right then and here. Thats what I recommend > > facilitators to focus on. > > > > The utmost the facilitator can do in case stuff gets out of control and > > nothing works is to leave the space. > > > > I have experienced this twice in os events. > > > > First event was the gathering of 300 Imams and Rabbis in Sevilla where HO > > facilitated and I was his assistant. The participants kept posting isssues > > without end and even after allocating 15 minutes more they kept going. When > > the time was over, HO turned to me and spoke into the mikrophone "Michael, > > please take over!" and left the room. It took only minutes that the > > participants stopped posting issues and moved into the phase to walk up to > > the Bulletin Board to sign up for issues they wanted to work on. > > > > The second example was an os with facilitators from different approaches in > > which I was participant. > > > > In the closing circle of the first day, one participant insisted on a > > discussion of a particularly critical aspect. He ignored the facilitators > > suggestion to post his issue for a session after dinner or the next day. > > No, he wanted to continue. The facilitator pointed to the schedule and the > > amount of time left. At the end of the agreed upon time he stood up and > > left the room. > > > > Two minutes later, the entire group left, too. > > > > What about other stories on The Law and Space Invadors? > > > > Right now I am returning to the breakfast table where we are talking about > > the urgent recommendation of the German Government to all German citizens > > presently in the Ukraine to leave the Ukraine and return home immediately. > > > > War? > > > > Greetings from Berlin > > > > mmp > > > > > Am 20.02.2022 um 08:18 schrieb Bhavesh Patel via OSList: > > > > > > It's an interesting one because: > > > > > > - The Law of Two Feet - is about us choosing to take responsibility > > > > > > for where we want to be. > > > - Space Invaders - is the idea that NOT everything is allowed, and if > > > > > > it feels like someone is controlling the space for another, then the > > > > > > facilitator does something about it. > > > > > > So it's an interesting grey area between when it is more about the > > > Law and when it is more about Space Invaders and stepping in... and who > > > is the facilitator when it comes to this loop anyway? > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 03:58, Harold Shinsato via OSList > > > <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > The OSList is intended to truly be "whoever comes is the right > > > people". > > > > > > The "Law of Two Feet" is hopefully something we take seriously here. > > > > > > I wish there was a feature in the OSList where you could "walk away" > > > > > > from a conversation without having to leave the OSList. Well, you > > > could > > > > > > just ignore the conversations where you are neither learning nor > > > > > > contributing. > > > > > > Another option most email systems have ways are message filters that > > > > > > could automatically delete what you don't want. That is an option. > > > With > > > > > > a little effort that would be a way to employ "The Law of Two Feet" or > > > > > > the "Law of Mobility". > > > > > > Best wishes to all! > > > > > > Harold > > > > > > OSList mailing list > > > > > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > > > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > OSList mailing list > > > > > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Michael M Pannwitz > > > > > > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > > > > > > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] > > > > OSList mailing list > > > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
