I haven't called it a law in years. That is because it isn't a law. It is an eternal invitation.
Paul On Sun, 20 Feb 2022, 16:08 Bhavesh Patel via OSList, < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Michael, always appreciate the time you take to write longer emails > and share stories. > > The way you intro the Law is pretty much exactly how I do it as well, > using almost the same language. That for me still involves using my freedom > to take responsibility for my learning, contribution, productivity, and > where that is going to happen or not going to happen, at the same time > never fully knowing and always responding to all that is happening within, > between, and among... self-organisation, or as Morin says > eco-self-organsation! > > I also have a very similar approach to space invaders, and have rarely > encountered one. There was one time when a person twice the size of me, a > former head of a big brand, took the mic for me and told everyone to stop > putting up topics on the second morning, because he had done a full > analysis of day 01 and could now tell us what we needed to do. I told him > that was great and kindly asked him to write it up and stick it up, but he > held on to the mic and repeated that this was not necessary and now we all > needed to listen to him and... there was a stand-off with both of us > holding the mic, until one of his peers asked him to let the facilitator do > his job, he backed off, and guess what, not many came to his session, and... > > I have also used the walk out approach when nothing was happening, on > reflection I think I needed to leave the room for that group to truly > believe the power is in their hands to post topics! > > I guess what I was trying to think about was what to do when someone is > clearly speaking in a way that is offensive to others... people can use > their two feet, the facilitator can also walk out of the room, what else is > there... I don't think OST = anything and everything is ok... so I was > reflecting on that... not sure if I am making sense to anyone??? > > > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 12:41, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Bhavesh, >> >> The Law of Two Feet (this is, of course, no Law but tongue of cheeck >> speak of the Man with the Hat) has not felt to me as a reminder to be >> responsible for where I want to be. >> In my intro to the process I say in the role of facilitator: "And here", >> pointing to the large poster on the wall of the space or on a large >> pinboard on the edge of the outer circle or floating above the crowd of >> 2108 supported by large balloons, have a look here >> > >> https://openspaceworldscape.org/events/165-jetzt-meine-leidenschaft-meine-verantwortung-ueber-die-tagung-hinaus-now-my-passion-my-responsibility-beyond-the-conference >> >> "is the Law of Two Feet which has to be utterly adhered to as it is a LAW: >> I honor a group with my absence if I neither learn nor contribute >> something. If I am learning something I stay, if I am contributindg >> something I also stay. >> But if neither, then I'll do the group and especially myself the favor >> of taking my feet... ", and here I imitate the Man by looking at my feet >> for 3 seconds lift them and run a short distance in front of the >> assembled crowd... continuing:"... and move to a space which is more >> productive for me... or to take a nap." (At this point folks usually >> laugh out loud, incited by my awkward running style) >> >> Now all this has nothing to do with taking responsibility for where I >> want to be. I am focusing on this because I as facilitator am not in any >> way responsible for what anyone does, under the assumption that everyone >> is naturally "responsible"... and I adress it in the systemic context we >> are in when in an os event, and that it is selforganisation all the time. >> >> Regarding space invaders - which I rarely have encountered probably >> because I am such an awsome event myself, especially when totally >> present and at the same time invisible - I do intervene. >> >> My first intervention is to do nothing and wait (at this point I >> understand why I am being paid for this job). If the crowd is kind of >> struck and silent, also waiting, I still wait. Usually, this >> intervention does get addressed by a participant, which causes another >> participant to react... and results in a short exchange in which usually >> someone then gets the space invader to see that the group does not oust >> him. >> >> If no participant intervenes and I have counted to 10, I ask: "Who else >> feels like Charlie?" This always works, one or several other >> participants will say something. The main advantage of participants >> participating in this is that the space invader immidiately sees that >> he/she is still part of the group, not an outsider. >> >> Another observation I have made is that some space invasions are >> aggressive while others are certainly productive but not executed >> completely. >> >> At one event, one participant got up to introduce his issue (others had >> posted issues before him) and said: "I have the most important 5 issues >> that need to be worked on!" and deposited his 5 issue sheets in the >> center. >> Here I intervened right away and reminded him that the issues have to be >> announced and posted on the Bulletin Board and that he shoulc say his >> name. Somewhat nervous he picke up his 5 issues, spoke to them and then >> posted them on the Bulletin Board. >> Later in the day he approached me and said: "Michael, nobody signed in >> for my issues! This was an important lesson for me." >> >> So, its not about what is allowed or not. Its about how space and time >> for selforganisation are expanded right then and here. Thats what I >> recommend facilitators to focus on. >> >> The utmost the facilitator can do in case stuff gets out of control and >> nothing works is to leave the space. >> I have experienced this twice in os events. >> First event was the gathering of 300 Imams and Rabbis in Sevilla where >> HO facilitated and I was his assistant. The participants kept posting >> isssues without end and even after allocating 15 minutes more they kept >> going. When the time was over, HO turned to me and spoke into the >> mikrophone "Michael, please take over!" and left the room. It took only >> minutes that the participants stopped posting issues and moved into the >> phase to walk up to the Bulletin Board to sign up for issues they wanted >> to work on. >> >> The second example was an os with facilitators from different approaches >> in which I was participant. >> In the closing circle of the first day, one participant insisted on a >> discussion of a particularly critical aspect. He ignored the >> facilitators suggestion to post his issue for a session after dinner or >> the next day. No, he wanted to continue. The facilitator pointed to the >> schedule and the amount of time left. At the end of the agreed upon time >> he stood up and left the room. >> Two minutes later, the entire group left, too. >> >> What about other stories on The Law and Space Invadors? >> >> Right now I am returning to the breakfast table where we are talking >> about the urgent recommendation of the German Government to all German >> citizens presently in the Ukraine to leave the Ukraine and return home >> immediately. >> >> War? >> >> Greetings from Berlin >> mmp >> >> >> Am 20.02.2022 um 08:18 schrieb Bhavesh Patel via OSList: >> > It's an interesting one because: >> > >> > * The Law of Two Feet - is about us choosing to take responsibility >> > for where we want to be. >> > >> > * Space Invaders - is the idea that NOT everything is allowed, and if >> > it feels like someone is controlling the space for another, then the >> > facilitator does something about it. >> > >> > So it's an interesting grey area between when it is more about the Law >> > and when it is more about Space Invaders and stepping in... and who is >> > the facilitator when it comes to this loop anyway? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 03:58, Harold Shinsato via OSList >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> > wrote: >> > >> > The OSList is intended to truly be "whoever comes is the right >> people". >> > >> > The "Law of Two Feet" is hopefully something we take seriously here. >> > >> > I wish there was a feature in the OSList where you could "walk away" >> > from a conversation without having to leave the OSList. Well, you >> could >> > just ignore the conversations where you are neither learning nor >> > contributing. >> > >> > Another option most email systems have ways are message filters that >> > could automatically delete what you don't want. That is an option. >> With >> > a little effort that would be a way to employ "The Law of Two Feet" >> or >> > the "Law of Mobility". >> > >> > Best wishes to all! >> > Harold >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > < >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> > Past archives can be viewed here: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OSList mailing list >> > To post send emails to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> -- >> Michael M Pannwitz >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >> +49 30 7728000 [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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