Am 30.04.2012 um 23:20 schrieb Thomas Müller:

> 
> 
> Am Montag, dem 30.04.2012 um 23:14 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
>> Another good point for Github is,
>> that a lot of 3rdparty projects we use are on github.
>> So we can easily fork them and contribute bug fixes we fixed. So every 
>> project profit by it.
>> 
> 
> Agreed with one exception: forking is a nightmare from a maintainers point of 
> view.
> The releases MUST be based on official release of 3rdparty projects.
> 
> We don't want to maintain and ship our own versions of 3rdparty libs!
I meant that we fork the projects and send bug fixes so they put them into 
their official releases.
> 
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
>> (3rdparty projects on github: jquery, ace editor, full calendar, when, 
>> Sabre, …)
>> 
>> Am 30.04.2012 um 22:56 schrieb Francois Lacroix:
>> 
>>> I agree why not move to http://gitlabhq.com/
>>> It is Open source and a github like
>>> 
>>> On 30 avr. 2012, at 22:39, Tom Needham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'd also like to see us move over to Github for our repository hosting and 
>>>> issue tracker. I think it would be hugely beneficial to have an integrated 
>>>> issue tracker, where we can reference commits easily. As Georg also said, 
>>>> we would get tracker for each repo which would really help keep things 
>>>> organised. 
>>>> 
>>>> The current bug tracker (although functional) leaves a lot to be desired, 
>>>> and with every update they seem to introduce a different bug. Just look at 
>>>> http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/issues/my if you haven't already. The 
>>>> page load times are also becoming unacceptable. We need to make it as easy 
>>>> as possible to keep things organised! 
>>>> 
>>>> If we moved to Github we would not have to worry about these problems and 
>>>> the user management would be integrated.
>>>> 
>>>> I know it will be a pain to move, but I think it will pay off with a much 
>>>> better workflow afterwards.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Needham
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 15:49, Georg Ehrke wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I can only agree to Jan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 28.04.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Klaas Freitag:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28.04.2012 22:21, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
>>>>>>> Not to open a can of worms (again),
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ..[Github is more hip and better]..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Software freedom – and in this case the freedom of the software we use
>>>>>>> for development – is just a means, not an end. Our goal is the freedom
>>>>>>> of others, that of the people we make the software for. And that can
>>>>>>> be achieved best&  fastest by using Github and by leveraging a vast
>>>>>>> range of enthusiastic developers&  designers which are, as it is,
>>>>>>> mostly on Github.
>>>>>> This discussion is the "vi or emacs" discussion of these days. What you 
>>>>>> basically say is that for our goal to produce free software it does not 
>>>>>> matter if the basics we use for that is free, as long its the best.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I heard that 100x and still I don't buy it. It's wrong. Freedom requires 
>>>>>> freedom,
>>>>> Linus actually hosted Linux on Github when kernel.org was down ;)
>>>>>> its not working otherwise. Thought into an extreme, look how nice github 
>>>>>> could harm free software by simply switching off.
>>>>> Gitorious could switch off as well.
>>>>>> (Yes, I also know that git is de-central, but still, you get the idea.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apart from that, I am tired of the discussion of course and don't really 
>>>>>> care from where I do git pull. The argument against our bugtracker 
>>>>>> however does not count for me here.
>>>>> I have to agree to Jan in this point too. Our Bugtracker works, but i 
>>>>> would appreciate github issues.
>>>>> Further more we would have separated issue pages for the different 
>>>>> repositories. (core, apps, desktop client, android client)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Klaas
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Georg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Klaas Freitag<[email protected]>  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 27.04.2012 18:46, Georg Ehrke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Georg,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> btw. i was always interested why we use gitorious and not github?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think (and hope) that is because gitorious is free software while 
>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>> is propietory. That is a value for us.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Klaas
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