Am Montag, dem 30.04.2012 um 23:21 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
> Am 30.04.2012 um 23:20 schrieb Thomas Müller:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Am Montag, dem 30.04.2012 um 23:14 schrieb Georg Ehrke:
> >> Another good point for Github is,
> >> that a lot of 3rdparty projects we use are on github.
> >> So we can easily fork them and contribute bug fixes we fixed. So every 
> >> project profit by it.
> >> 
> > 
> > Agreed with one exception: forking is a nightmare from a maintainers point 
> > of view.
> > The releases MUST be based on official release of 3rdparty projects.
> > 
> > We don't want to maintain and ship our own versions of 3rdparty libs!
> I meant that we fork the projects and send bug fixes so they put them into 
> their official releases.

Full ack
I was assuming that - just wanted to point it out more explicit.

> > 
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> > 
> >> (3rdparty projects on github: jquery, ace editor, full calendar, when, 
> >> Sabre, …)
> >> 
> >> Am 30.04.2012 um 22:56 schrieb Francois Lacroix:
> >> 
> >>> I agree why not move to http://gitlabhq.com/
> >>> It is Open source and a github like
> >>> 
> >>> On 30 avr. 2012, at 22:39, Tom Needham <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> I'd also like to see us move over to Github for our repository hosting 
> >>>> and issue tracker. I think it would be hugely beneficial to have an 
> >>>> integrated issue tracker, where we can reference commits easily. As 
> >>>> Georg also said, we would get tracker for each repo which would really 
> >>>> help keep things organised. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The current bug tracker (although functional) leaves a lot to be 
> >>>> desired, and with every update they seem to introduce a different bug. 
> >>>> Just look at http://bugs.owncloud.org/thebuggenie/issues/my if you 
> >>>> haven't already. The page load times are also becoming unacceptable. We 
> >>>> need to make it as easy as possible to keep things organised! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> If we moved to Github we would not have to worry about these problems 
> >>>> and the user management would be integrated.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I know it will be a pain to move, but I think it will pay off with a 
> >>>> much better workflow afterwards.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Tom
> >>>> 
> >>>> Tom Needham
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 15:49, Georg Ehrke wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> I can only agree to Jan.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Am 28.04.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Klaas Freitag:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On 28.04.2012 22:21, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
> >>>>>>> Not to open a can of worms (again),
> >>>>>> lol
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> ..[Github is more hip and better]..
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Software freedom – and in this case the freedom of the software we use
> >>>>>>> for development – is just a means, not an end. Our goal is the freedom
> >>>>>>> of others, that of the people we make the software for. And that can
> >>>>>>> be achieved best&  fastest by using Github and by leveraging a vast
> >>>>>>> range of enthusiastic developers&  designers which are, as it is,
> >>>>>>> mostly on Github.
> >>>>>> This discussion is the "vi or emacs" discussion of these days. What 
> >>>>>> you basically say is that for our goal to produce free software it 
> >>>>>> does not matter if the basics we use for that is free, as long its the 
> >>>>>> best.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I heard that 100x and still I don't buy it. It's wrong. Freedom 
> >>>>>> requires freedom,
> >>>>> Linus actually hosted Linux on Github when kernel.org was down ;)
> >>>>>> its not working otherwise. Thought into an extreme, look how nice 
> >>>>>> github could harm free software by simply switching off.
> >>>>> Gitorious could switch off as well.
> >>>>>> (Yes, I also know that git is de-central, but still, you get the idea.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Apart from that, I am tired of the discussion of course and don't 
> >>>>>> really care from where I do git pull. The argument against our 
> >>>>>> bugtracker however does not count for me here.
> >>>>> I have to agree to Jan in this point too. Our Bugtracker works, but i 
> >>>>> would appreciate github issues.
> >>>>> Further more we would have separated issue pages for the different 
> >>>>> repositories. (core, apps, desktop client, android client)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>> Klaas
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Georg
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Klaas Freitag<[email protected]>  
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 27.04.2012 18:46, Georg Ehrke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Hi Georg,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> btw. i was always interested why we use gitorious and not github?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I think (and hope) that is because gitorious is free software while 
> >>>>>>>> github
> >>>>>>>> is propietory. That is a value for us.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> regards,
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Klaas
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