Uhm, not really. Isolated storage is good, but doesn't share data across apps. There's various scenarios such as crm's or customer service based apps where it is desirable to have small apps that share the same core data (rather than try to cram every feature into the one app them disabling features depending on the user etc). And then there's the entire lack of shared documents issue (other than photos and videos). There's absolutely no way (that I know of) to do what should be standard "office" kinds of tasks like automate the creation of a word document/invoice/quote etc, and automatically attach it to an email. The more and more I try to use the phone for business the more I think it is designed for stand alone games etc or only for web based applications where you do that processing off the phone.
And yes I know you can hack a bitmap to store your data. That that is even thought of, little alone even considered, is sad. |-----Original Message----- |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- |[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kean |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:16 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | |With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you? | |-----Original Message----- |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy |Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM |To: 'ozDotNet' |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | |Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK. My list includes, (but not |limited to) is: |- no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself |- no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in the user |interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text messages) |- no shared data or files | |I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer if you want to |write any app that deals with people. | | ||-----Original Message----- ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device || ||Yeah, they've been saying "it's coming" for years. || ||Bill, || ||For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but there ||is no |way to ||access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in the |Native SDK. ||We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest ||"ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD" but as I said, you can't access the folder. || ||-----Original Message----- ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM ||To: ozDotNet ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device || ||I did see a twitter post (in response to me asking about Zune pass) ||that it |was ||coming, but no timeframe on when. || ||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Simon Reed ||<[email protected]> ||wrote: ||> Speaking of Zune is there a timeline for Zune pass or music coming to |Aus? ||> ||> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]> |wrote: ||>> ||>> Use Zune on the PC for marketplace ;) ||>> ||>> |-----Original Message----- ||>> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- ||>> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Reed ||>> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 AM ||>> |To: ozDotNet ||>> |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device ||>> | ||>> |Does anyone know if marketplace/downloads are metered content ||>> |through Telstra I know Telstra One is unmetered and thought maybe ||>> |marketplace ||>> could ||>> |be the same as you can add the cost of apps to the mobile bill? ||>> |(probably ||>> just ||>> |wishful thinking) ||>> | ||>> | ||>> |On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Stephen Price ||>> |<[email protected]> ||>> |wrote: ||>> | ||>> | ||>> | I seem to be averaging about 3Mb per day. I've used 45Mb of ||>> |my 512Mb ||>> | data. I use it for general browsing and dont limit anything ||>> |like ||>> | pictures or anything. I do have it hooked up to wifi at home ||>> |and ||>> at ||>> | work so that would help reduce actual 3G bandwidth used. ||>> | ||>> | 500Mb should be plenty. Its mostly twitter and facebook ||>> | which is ||>> text ||>> |mostly. ||>> | ||>> | ||>> | On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, .net noobie ||>> |<[email protected]> wrote: ||>> | > Stephen, do you have it all setup for getting the services ||>> |and ||>> photos ||>> |etc? ||>> | > do you have any issues with blowing your data limits or ||>> |you ||>> don't ||>> know ||>> |yet? ||>> | > ||>> | > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Stephen Price ||>> |<[email protected]> ||>> | > wrote: ||>> | >> ||>> | >> I was on Optus with my iphone. I got the shits with them ||>> |in the ||>> end, ||>> | >> the number of times I'd be in the city and it would be ||>> | giving ||>> me ||>> a ||>> | >> GPRS connection (no 3G) drove me crazy. ||>> | >> ||>> | >> Telstra have finally become competitive with their ||>> | pricing. My ||>> HTC ||>> | >> Mozart is costing me $49 a month with nothing to pay for ||>> | the ||>> phone. ||>> | >> Optus was/is $79 a month. I gave my iphone to my daughter ||>> |(no credit ||>> | >> topups for her for a while she's got a $350 limit). It ||>> |was way ||>> to ||>> much ||>> | >> to break the Optus contract and pay out the phone. ||>> | >> ||>> | >> Love the Mozart, its a nice phone. My only complaint is ||>> | there ||>> doesnt ||>> | >> seem to be a way to make the screen lock after a period ||>> | of ||>> time. ||>> it ||>> | >> locks or it doesnt. iphone could lock after 10 mins. ||>> | >> ||>> | >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM, .net noobie ||>> |<[email protected]> ||>> | >> wrote: ||>> | >> > How bad is the Optus network really ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > I really only intend on being in a city, never really ||>> |going ||>> to ||>> be in the ||>> | >> > country ||>> | >> > the optus plans just seem to give alot more then ||>> | telstra on ||>> the ||>> data ||>> | >> > side ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter, ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, ||>> | >> > eBay ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4 ||>> | >> > this could reduce the data your paying for with the ||>> |built in ||>> features ||>> | >> > alot.... ||>> | >> > or is all the data going to actually coming from ||>> | windows live ||>> and ||>> | >> > therefore ||>> | >> > this will not help you reduce the data your consuming? ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > I would mostly just be using twitter and maybe Facebook ||>> |sometimes if ||>> | >> > someone ||>> | >> > sent me a message or something ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > Minimum Monthly Spend $79 ||>> | >> > Total Monthly Value Up to $9001 ||>> | >> > Included Data 3GB2 or Unlimited BIS + 1GB 2 on ||>> |BlackBerry handsets ||>> | >> > Voicemail deposits & retrievals Unlimited3 ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter, ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, ||>> | >> > eBay ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4 ||>> | >> > Standard National SMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited ||>> | >> > Standard National MMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited ||>> | >> > Call rate $0.90 per minute ||>> | >> > National Video call rate $1 per minute plus 35c flagfall ||>> | >> > International Video call rate $1.50 per minute plus 35c ||>> flagfall ||>> | >> > 13/1300 call rate $0.90 per minute + $0.35 Flagfall ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB ||>> | >> > Inclusions Standard Aust local, national, GSM mobile, ||>> | video ||>> calls, ||>> | >> > voicemail ||>> | >> > and 13/1300 calls & standard SMS, MMS to Aust GSM ||>> | mobile, and ||>> | >> > international ||>> | >> > SMS ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > 1 Pay the first Business Complete Ultimate plan worth ||>> | of ||>> included ||>> |value ||>> | >> > each ||>> | >> > billing period after which these services are free up ||>> |to a ||>> maximum ||>> |of ||>> | >> > your ||>> | >> > selected plans "Included Cap Value" per billing period. ||>> | >> > 2 Mobile Internet Data Value: can be used to access ||>> |services ||>> on ||>> |Optus ||>> | >> > Zoo, ||>> | >> > browsing the Internet from your mobile, as well as ||>> |using your mobile as ||>> | >> > a ||>> | >> > modem. If you elect to take the Business Advantage BMB ||>> service ||>> |the plans ||>> | >> > included mobile data value can be shared. Excess usage ||>> charges ||>> of ||>> |$0.10 ||>> | >> > per ||>> | >> > MB or part thereof apply (Includes uploads and downloads). ||>> Data ||>> |usage ||>> | >> > will ||>> | >> > be counted in kilobytes, where 1024KB = 1MB and ||>> |includes both uploads ||>> | >> > and ||>> | >> > downloads. Any unused data allowance cannot be rolled over. ||>> |Unlimited ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 & Browsing: only applies for POP3 email ||>> traffic ||>> |and ||>> | >> > internet ||>> | >> > browsing through the BlackBerry Browser and ||>> |specifically ||>> excludes ||>> |use of ||>> | >> > the ||>> | >> > Optus Zoo Browser and International Roaming. Customers ||>> |must have a ||>> | >> > BlackBerry or BlackBerry Connect handset to access this ||>> service. ||>> | >> > Unlimited ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 email and browsing is subject to the ||>> | Optus ||>> Mobile ||>> |Fair ||>> | >> > GoTM ||>> | >> > policy. The BlackBerry and RIM families of related ||>> |marks, ||>> images ||>> |and ||>> | >> > symbols ||>> | >> > are the exclusive properties of and trademarks or ||>> |registered trademarks ||>> | >> > of ||>> | >> > Research In Motion Limited used by permission. ||>> | >> > 3 Unlimited Voicemail: Applies to Voicemail Deposits ||>> |and Retrievals, ||>> | >> > diversion charges apply. ||>> | >> > 4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, eBay ||>> |& ||>> |Foursquare: ||>> | >> > Only ||>> | >> > available within Australian and requires compatible |handset. ||>> Use of ||>> | >> > these ||>> | >> > services is separate and does not count towards your ||>> |included "Mobile ||>> | >> > Internet Data". Cannot be used with your Optus Mobile ||>> Broadband ||>> |(OMB) or ||>> | >> > Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and excludes ||>> |use of Facebook ||>> | >> > SMS or ||>> | >> > other social media alert services. These features are ||>> |only ||>> available ||>> |to ||>> | >> > you ||>> | >> > if your handset is compatible with the service. Optus ||>> |Mobile ||>> Fair ||>> |GoTM ||>> | >> > Policy applies. ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph ||>> |<[email protected]> ||>> | >> > wrote: ||>> | >> >> Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front - ||>> | >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - ||>> |Windows ||>> Phone ||>> | >> >> Development ||>> | >> >> | +61 412 413 425 ||>> | >> >> The information contained in this email is ||>> | confidential. If ||>> you are ||>> |not ||>> | >> >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use ||>> |the information in ||>> | >> >> this ||>> | >> >> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the ||>> integrity ||>> |of any ||>> | >> >> emails or attached files. The views or opinions ||>> |expressed ||>> are ||>> the ||>> | >> >> author's ||>> | >> >> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built ||>> | To ||>> Roam. ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected] ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of Chris Walsh ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet ||>> | >> >> Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> I am, but really depends on if you want an Australian ||>> warranty ||>> |etc... ||>> | >> >> If ||>> | >> >> you purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't have an ||>> |AU warranty. ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> I'd suggest getting it outright via Telstra. Or if ||>> |you want ||>> a ||>> plan, ||>> | >> >> get ||>> | >> >> it on via Telstra, free on a $49 plan, and the phones ||>> | are ||>> unlocked ||>> |by ||>> | >> >> default. ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected] ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of .net noobie ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:11 PM ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet ||>> | >> >> Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best ||>> |model ||>> to ||>> get? ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie ||>> |<[email protected]> ||>> | >> >> wrote: ||>> | >> >>> http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone- ||>> |categories/smartphones/windows/window ||>> | >> >>> s-phone.html?order=price&dir=asc ||>> | >> >>> ||>> | >> >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh ||>> |<[email protected]> wrote: ||>> | >> >>>> Really depends on what network you're wanting to use ||>> |it ||>> on. ||>> If ||>> |its ||>> | >> >>>> Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use the ||>> |850Mhz ||>> 3G ||>> |band, ||>> | >> >>>> the ||>> | >> >>>> Samsung Focus & the HTC Surround. ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the ||>> |2100Mhz & 900Mhz 3G ||>> | >> >>>> bands, so you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 ||>> |launch devices ||>> | >> >>>> support ||>> | >> >>>> those bands. ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the ||>> |Dell ||>> Venue ||>> |Pro, but ||>> | >> >>>> it ||>> | >> >>>> isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, ||>> |AMOLED screen, ||>> | >> >>>> expansive ||>> | >> >>>> memory & portrait slider. ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> -----Original Message----- ||>> | >> >>>> From: [email protected] ||>> | >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ||>> |.net noobie ||>> | >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM ||>> | >> >>>> To: [email protected] ||>> | >> >>>> Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 ||>> |Handset/device outright ||>> | >> >>>> without ||>> | >> >>>> a plan? ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> Telstra are selling them I think but there price is ||>> |pretty ||>> high ||>> |and ||>> | >> >>>> only have 2 phones ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright- ||>> |buy-prices ||>> | >> >>>> -for-windows-phone-7-handsets/ ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> What do people think about buying a handset from ||>> |overseas ||>> to ||>> |try and ||>> | >> >>>> get ||>> | >> >>>> a better price? ||>> | >> >>>> e.g. AT&T are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I ||>> |don't ||>> know ||>> |the ||>> | >> >>>> details as in it this is on some kind of plan or ||>> |just the ||>> handset ||>> | >> >>>> outright? ||>> | >> >>>> or if the handset will be locked to AT&T etc... ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> I like the look of the "Samsung Omnia 7" from Optus ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> the The "HTC Mozart", has a better camera 8 Mega ||>> | Pixel ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> what models do people think is best and why? ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> in the US there is a "Samsung Focus" which people ||>> | seem to ||>> like ||>> |a lot, ||>> | >> >>>> is ||>> | >> >>>> the "Samsung Omnia 7" basically the same/Australian ||>> version? ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> Is there going to be any advantage to getting a ||>> | phone on a ||>> plan, ||>> | >> >>>> rather ||>> | >> >>>> then getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card? ||>> | >> >>>> e.g. will the phone company have any extra features ||>> | I will ||>> not ||>> |get if ||>> | >> >>>> I ||>> | >> >>>> just put in my own Sim card? ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> these are/seem to be the options for Australian ||>> |handsets ||>> | >> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en- ||>> |au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=al ||>> | >> >>>> l as I said above I like the "Samsung Omnia 7" so ||>> |any ||>> comments ||>> |on why ||>> | >> >>>> I should or should not choose a different model ||>> |would be ||>> great ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>>> thanks noobie ||>> | >> >>>> ||>> | >> >>> ||>> | >> >> ||>> | >> > ||>> | >> > ||>> | > ||>> | > ||>> | ||>> | ||>> ||>> ||> ||>
