Hi Chris,
|I'm sure they "get" mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they
were on
|to cut v1. Sh*t just had to be "left out".
That's a completely different argument from what you earlier said: "secure
shared data" doesn't belong on a portable device". On the secure data
thing, well that's like saying you shouldn't have any contact information or
any office documents etc. They are ALL data that needs to be secure.
Today, I think the argument is they are secure by not openly allowing other
applications to access them. Jumping to a later email form you, you then
say:
" What "we" really need is access to the Office hub's documents. "
So really you are talking about secure shared data ;)
I think the real issue is the lack of connectivity with the contacts list.
The list is designed to aggregate information, yet that is not made
available. Try for example to send a vcard. The contact list should be
available, with permission. Without that you have to setup a whole other set
of aggregation and access somewhere else, and then try to sync those two
back. It should be straight forward to insert a contact's address, name etc,
etc.
Anyway, yes the issue is they left a lot of sh*t out. I think the real
prove'r for WP& will be the rate at which they make these kinds of updates
available.
|-----Original Message-----
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|Hahaha.
|
|
|
|Slap away, sure, there are offline scenarios BUT, we live in a connected
world
|people. Let's start acting like it :P
|
|
|
|It's hard to communicate between apps when there are no multitasking
|scenarios, socket access blah blah.
|
|
|
|I'm sure they "get" mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they
were on
|to cut v1. Sh*t just had to be "left out". Look at SQL CE, it's there,
it's on the
|device, there is just no "bridge" to get access via the end user SDK. The
native
|SDK have access to it.
|
|
|
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:02 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Chris, put your hand out and let me slap it J - I want to be able to run
offline
|and I mean totally offline. Having to go through the cloud to communicate
|between applications because MS isn't smart enough to work out how to open
a
|channel between apps in a secure way is a sign that they don't get
mobility!
|
|
|
|Don't get me wrong I'm not asking for full access as in the WinMo days -
that
|was way to cowboyish. But, MS definitely needs to consider doing something
|similar to (And I'm NOT saying the same) as Android Intents
|
|
|
|Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone Development
|| +61 412 413 425
|
|The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
|intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
email in
|any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or
|attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and
may
|not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.
|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:55 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|"secure shared data" doesn't belong on a portable device, that can be a)
lost,
|stolen or hacked.
|
|
|
|If you want something that is available to use between company apps, then
you
|need to have a central repo in the cloud somewhere. Sure you need to
"cache"
|it locally, but it shouldn't be available for each app, if each app
requires the
|same document, then you're doing it wrong. :)
|
|
|
|Sure, the phone needs SQL CE, but even then, it isn't the solution.
|
|
|
|People are just used to the Old WinMo days when you've got FULL access.
|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:47 PM
|
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Yep I saw that. I had thought the same too. It was that I was referring to
when I
|said "hack a bitmap".
|
|It's not really a good solution or a secure one. And like I said, that
people even
|consider this is a real sign the phone is too limiting but not having
shared data.
|
|
|
|What I am hoping we will see is the implementation of SQL CE 4 on the phone
|as a shared resource, including a shared data storage that includes
blobs/files,
|with permissions. Eg. An app can use a password to share files with other
apps
|from the same company. Stores could be by company and/or application, and
|access to would require initial user prompt etc. It is probably asking a
lot, but
|really the phone needs secure shared data.
|
|
|
|
|
||-----Original Message-----
|
||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||[email protected]] On Behalf Of .net noobie
|
||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:39 PM
|
||To: ozDotNet
|
||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||
|
||Nick Randolph, made a post on his blog i think where he used an image
|
||to
|
|store
|
||data, which I you could access from different apps, not really a good
|
||solution I guess, but maybe OK for some situations
|
||
|
||http://nicksnettravels.builttoroam.com/post/2010/09/29/Windows-Phone-7-
|
||Passing-Data-Between-Applications.aspx
|
||
|
||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]
|<mailto:[email protected]> >
|
|wrote:
|
||>
|
||> Uhm, not really. Isolated storage is good, but doesn't share data
|
||> across apps. There's various scenarios such as crm's or customer
|
||> service based apps where it is desirable to have small apps that
|
||> share the same core
|
|data
|
||> (rather than try to cram every feature into the one app them
|
||> disabling features depending on the user etc). And then there's the
|
||> entire lack of shared documents issue (other than photos and videos).
|
||> There's
|
|absolutely
|
||> no way (that I know of) to do what should be standard "office" kinds
|
||> of tasks like automate the creation of a word document/invoice/quote
|
||> etc,
|
|and
|
||> automatically attach it to an email. The more and more I try to use
|
||> the phone for business the more I think it is designed for stand
|
||> alone games
|
|etc
|
||> or only for web based applications where you do that processing off
|
||> the phone.
|
||>
|
||> And yes I know you can hack a bitmap to store your data. That that is
|
|even
|
||> thought of, little alone even considered, is sad.
|
||>
|
||>
|
||> |-----Original Message-----
|
||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kean
|
||> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:16 PM
|
||> |To: ozDotNet
|
||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> |
|
||> |With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you?
|
||> |
|
||> |-----Original Message-----
|
||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|
||> |Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM
|
||> |To: 'ozDotNet'
|
||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> |
|
||> |Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK. My list
|
||> |includes,
|
||> (but not
|
||> |limited to) is:
|
||> |- no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself
|
||> |- no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in
|
||> |the
|
|user
|
||> |interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text messages)
|
||> |- no shared data or files
|
||> |
|
||> |I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer if
|
||> |you
|
||> want to
|
||> |write any app that deals with people.
|
||> |
|
||> |
|
||> ||-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|
||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM
|
||> ||To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||
|
||> ||Yeah, they've been saying "it's coming" for years.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||Bill,
|
||> ||
|
||> ||For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but
|
||> ||there is no
|
||> |way to
|
||> ||access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in
|
||> ||the
|
||> |Native SDK.
|
||> ||We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest
|
||> ||"ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD" but as I said, you can't access the folder.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
|
||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM
|
||> ||To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||
|
||> ||I did see a twitter post (in response to me asking about Zune pass)
|
||> ||that it
|
||> |was
|
||> ||coming, but no timeframe on when.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Simon Reed
|
||> ||<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||wrote:
|
||> ||> Speaking of Zune is there a timeline for Zune pass or music
|
||> ||> coming to
|
||> |Aus?
|
||> ||>
|
||> ||> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bill McCarthy
|
||> ||> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> |wrote:
|
||> ||>>
|
||> ||>> Use Zune on the PC for marketplace ;)
|
||> ||>>
|
||> ||>> |-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||>> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||>> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Reed
|
||> ||>> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 AM
|
||> ||>> |To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||>> |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |Does anyone know if marketplace/downloads are metered content
|
||> ||>> |through Telstra I know Telstra One is unmetered and thought
|
||> ||>> |maybe marketplace
|
||> ||>> could
|
||> ||>> |be the same as you can add the cost of apps to the mobile bill?
|
||> ||>> |(probably
|
||> ||>> just
|
||> ||>> |wishful thinking)
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Stephen Price
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> |wrote:
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | I seem to be averaging about 3Mb per day. I've used 45Mb
|
||> ||>> |of my 512Mb
|
||> ||>> | data. I use it for general browsing and dont limit
|
||> ||>> |anything like
|
||> ||>> | pictures or anything. I do have it hooked up to wifi at
|
||> ||>> |home and
|
||> ||>> at
|
||> ||>> | work so that would help reduce actual 3G bandwidth used.
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | 500Mb should be plenty. Its mostly twitter and facebook
|
||> ||>> | which is
|
||> ||>> text
|
||> ||>> |mostly.
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, .net noobie
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|wrote:
|
||> ||>> | > Stephen, do you have it all setup for getting the
|
||> ||>> |services and
|
||> ||>> photos
|
||> ||>> |etc?
|
||> ||>> | > do you have any issues with blowing your data limits
|
||> ||>> |or you
|
||> ||>> don't
|
||> ||>> know
|
||> ||>> |yet?
|
||> ||>> | >
|
||> ||>> | > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Stephen Price
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | > wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> I was on Optus with my iphone. I got the shits with
|
||> ||>> |them in the
|
||> ||>> end,
|
||> ||>> | >> the number of times I'd be in the city and it would
|
||> ||>> | be giving
|
||> ||>> me
|
||> ||>> a
|
||> ||>> | >> GPRS connection (no 3G) drove me crazy.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> Telstra have finally become competitive with their
|
||> ||>> | pricing. My
|
||> ||>> HTC
|
||> ||>> | >> Mozart is costing me $49 a month with nothing to pay
|
||> ||>> | for the
|
||> ||>> phone.
|
||> ||>> | >> Optus was/is $79 a month. I gave my iphone to my
|
||> ||>> |daughter (no credit
|
||> ||>> | >> topups for her for a while she's got a $350 limit).
|
||> ||>> |It was way
|
||> ||>> to
|
||> ||>> much
|
||> ||>> | >> to break the Optus contract and pay out the phone.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> Love the Mozart, its a nice phone. My only complaint
|
||> ||>> | is there
|
||> ||>> doesnt
|
||> ||>> | >> seem to be a way to make the screen lock after a
|
||> ||>> | period of
|
||> ||>> time.
|
||> ||>> it
|
||> ||>> | >> locks or it doesnt. iphone could lock after 10 mins.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM, .net noobie
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | >> wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >> > How bad is the Optus network really
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > I really only intend on being in a city, never
|
||> ||>> |really going
|
||> ||>> to
|
||> ||>> be in the
|
||> ||>> | >> > country
|
||> ||>> | >> > the optus plans just seem to give alot more then
|
||> ||>> | telstra on
|
||> ||>> the
|
||> ||>> data
|
||> ||>> | >> > side
|
||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter,
|
||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> | >> > eBay
|
||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4
|
||> ||>> | >> > this could reduce the data your paying for with the
|
||> ||>> |built in
|
||> ||>> features
|
||> ||>> | >> > alot....
|
||> ||>> | >> > or is all the data going to actually coming from
|
||> ||>> | windows live
|
||> ||>> and
|
||> ||>> | >> > therefore
|
||> ||>> | >> > this will not help you reduce the data your consuming?
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > I would mostly just be using twitter and maybe
|
||> ||>> |Facebook sometimes if
|
||> ||>> | >> > someone
|
||> ||>> | >> > sent me a message or something
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > Minimum Monthly Spend $79
|
||> ||>> | >> > Total Monthly Value Up to $9001
|
||> ||>> | >> > Included Data 3GB2 or Unlimited BIS + 1GB 2 on
|
||> ||>> |BlackBerry handsets
|
||> ||>> | >> > Voicemail deposits & retrievals Unlimited3
|
||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter,
|
||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> | >> > eBay
|
||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4
|
||> ||>> | >> > Standard National SMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > Standard National MMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > Call rate $0.90 per minute
|
||> ||>> | >> > National Video call rate $1 per minute plus 35c
|
|flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > International Video call rate $1.50 per minute plus
|
||> ||>> | 35c
|
||> ||>> flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > 13/1300 call rate $0.90 per minute + $0.35 Flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call
|
||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB
|
||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call
|
||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB
|
||> ||>> | >> > Inclusions Standard Aust local, national, GSM
|
||> ||>> | mobile, video
|
||> ||>> calls,
|
||> ||>> | >> > voicemail
|
||> ||>> | >> > and 13/1300 calls & standard SMS, MMS to Aust GSM
|
||> ||>> | mobile, and
|
||> ||>> | >> > international
|
||> ||>> | >> > SMS
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > 1 Pay the first Business Complete Ultimate plan
|
||> ||>> | worth of
|
||> ||>> included
|
||> ||>> |value
|
||> ||>> | >> > each
|
||> ||>> | >> > billing period after which these services are free
|
||> ||>> |up to a
|
||> ||>> maximum
|
||> ||>> |of
|
||> ||>> | >> > your
|
||> ||>> | >> > selected plans "Included Cap Value" per billing
period.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 2 Mobile Internet Data Value: can be used to access
|
||> ||>> |services
|
||> ||>> on
|
||> ||>> |Optus
|
||> ||>> | >> > Zoo,
|
||> ||>> | >> > browsing the Internet from your mobile, as well as
|
||> ||>> |using your mobile as
|
||> ||>> | >> > a
|
||> ||>> | >> > modem. If you elect to take the Business Advantage
|
||> ||>> |BMB
|
||> ||>> service
|
||> ||>> |the plans
|
||> ||>> | >> > included mobile data value can be shared. Excess
|
||> ||>> |usage
|
||> ||>> charges
|
||> ||>> of
|
||> ||>> |$0.10
|
||> ||>> | >> > per
|
||> ||>> | >> > MB or part thereof apply (Includes uploads and
|
|downloads).
|
||> ||>> Data
|
||> ||>> |usage
|
||> ||>> | >> > will
|
||> ||>> | >> > be counted in kilobytes, where 1024KB = 1MB and
|
||> ||>> |includes both uploads
|
||> ||>> | >> > and
|
||> ||>> | >> > downloads. Any unused data allowance cannot be
|
||> ||>> |rolled
|
||> over.
|
||> ||>> |Unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 & Browsing: only applies for POP3
|
||> ||>> |email
|
||> ||>> traffic
|
||> ||>> |and
|
||> ||>> | >> > internet
|
||> ||>> | >> > browsing through the BlackBerry Browser and
|
||> ||>> |specifically
|
||> ||>> excludes
|
||> ||>> |use of
|
||> ||>> | >> > the
|
||> ||>> | >> > Optus Zoo Browser and International Roaming.
|
||> ||>> |Customers must have a
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry or BlackBerry Connect handset to access
|
||> ||>> |this
|
||> ||>> service.
|
||> ||>> | >> > Unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 email and browsing is subject to
|
||> ||>> | the Optus
|
||> ||>> Mobile
|
||> ||>> |Fair
|
||> ||>> | >> > GoTM
|
||> ||>> | >> > policy. The BlackBerry and RIM families of related
|
||> ||>> |marks,
|
||> ||>> images
|
||> ||>> |and
|
||> ||>> | >> > symbols
|
||> ||>> | >> > are the exclusive properties of and trademarks or
|
||> ||>> |registered trademarks
|
||> ||>> | >> > of
|
||> ||>> | >> > Research In Motion Limited used by permission.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 3 Unlimited Voicemail: Applies to Voicemail
|
||> ||>> |Deposits and Retrievals,
|
||> ||>> | >> > diversion charges apply.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> |eBay &
|
||> ||>> |Foursquare:
|
||> ||>> | >> > Only
|
||> ||>> | >> > available within Australian and requires compatible
|
||> |handset.
|
||> ||>> Use of
|
||> ||>> | >> > these
|
||> ||>> | >> > services is separate and does not count towards
|
||> ||>> |your included "Mobile
|
||> ||>> | >> > Internet Data". Cannot be used with your Optus
|
||> ||>> |Mobile
|
||> ||>> Broadband
|
||> ||>> |(OMB) or
|
||> ||>> | >> > Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and
|
||> ||>> |excludes use of Facebook
|
||> ||>> | >> > SMS or
|
||> ||>> | >> > other social media alert services. These features
|
||> ||>> |are only
|
||> ||>> available
|
||> ||>> |to
|
||> ||>> | >> > you
|
||> ||>> | >> > if your handset is compatible with the service.
|
||> ||>> |Optus Mobile
|
||> ||>> Fair
|
||> ||>> |GoTM
|
||> ||>> | >> > Policy applies.
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front -
|
||> ||>> | >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html
|<http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html>
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP -
|
||> ||>> |Windows
|
||> ||>> Phone
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Development
|
||> ||>> | >> >> | +61 412 413 425
|
||> ||>> | >> >> The information contained in this email is
|
||> ||>> | confidential. If
|
||> ||>> you are
|
||> ||>> |not
|
||> ||>> | >> >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or
|
||> ||>> |use the information in
|
||> ||>> | >> >> this
|
||> ||>> | >> >> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee
|
||> ||>> |the
|
||> ||>> integrity
|
||> ||>> |of any
|
||> ||>> | >> >> emails or attached files. The views or opinions
|
||> ||>> |expressed
|
||> ||>> are
|
||> ||>> the
|
||> ||>> | >> >> author's
|
||> ||>> | >> >> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of
|
||> ||>> | Built To
|
||> ||>> Roam.
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
|
||> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message-----
|
||> ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected]
|
||> ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
|
||> ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM
|
||> ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
|
||> ||>> | >> >> I am, but really depends on if you want an
|
||> ||>> | Australian
|
||> ||>> warranty
|
||> ||>> |etc...
|
||> ||>> | >> >> If
|
||> ||>> | >> >> you purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't
|
||> ||>> |have an AU warranty.
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
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||> ||>> |Of .net noobie
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||> ||>> | >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
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||> ||>> | >> >>>> Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
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|<http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright->
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||> ||>> | >> >>>>
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