It really depends on whether or not you want to see twitter/facebook/messenger updates from your friends on your phone or not. First time I set it up I used an existing liveID, and I found it way too noisy, and seems the phone won't let me even turn those updates off. So I reset the phone and added a clean new liveID, and exported my phone book over to there. Now it's a bit more like a phone contact list (I know that's probably blasphemous <g>). The thing that really amazed me was finding out there is no grouping or categories etc for contacts. So you can't just add a tag to people who are working on a project or particular companies or teams etc. And you can't write your own unless you make the phone user re=enter in all the data because you can't access the contacts list.
Oh, but you get to see their "tweets", and messenger status updates. ;) |-----Original Message----- |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- |[email protected]] On Behalf Of .net noobie |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 8:54 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | |how did you guys setup your phones | |Did you make a new LiveID / Account | |I don't want to fill my phone up with to many junk contacts | | |On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Chris Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: | | | I never said the Office Hub is secure. If you need a document to be |shared with apps, that's the place to put it (if we had access). If you want to |secure it, then they should use the same secure ISO model they use for |Silverlight apps in the browser. There is two ISO stores, one for the app, and |one for the Site. They can adapt that paradigm onto the phone for App & |Publisher. | | But yes, they've got some work to do :) | | | -----Original Message----- | From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy | | Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 3:16 PM | To: 'ozDotNet' | Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | Hi Chris, | | |I'm sure they "get" mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they | were on | |to cut v1. Sh*t just had to be "left out". | | That's a completely different argument from what you earlier said: |"secure shared data" doesn't belong on a portable device". On the secure data |thing, well that's like saying you shouldn't have any contact information or any |office documents etc. They are ALL data that needs to be secure. | Today, I think the argument is they are secure by not openly allowing |other applications to access them. Jumping to a later email form you, you then | say: | " What "we" really need is access to the Office hub's documents. " | So really you are talking about secure shared data ;) | | I think the real issue is the lack of connectivity with the contacts list. | The list is designed to aggregate information, yet that is not made |available. Try for example to send a vcard. The contact list should be |available, with permission. Without that you have to setup a whole other set of |aggregation and access somewhere else, and then try to sync those two back. It |should be straight forward to insert a contact's address, name etc, etc. | | Anyway, yes the issue is they left a lot of sh*t out. I think the real |prove'r for WP& will be the rate at which they make these kinds of updates |available. | | | | | |-----Original Message----- | |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh | |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:13 PM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | |Hahaha. | | | | | | | |Slap away, sure, there are offline scenarios BUT, we live in a | |connected | world | |people. Let's start acting like it :P | | | | | | | |It's hard to communicate between apps when there are no multitasking | |scenarios, socket access blah blah. | | | | | | | |I'm sure they "get" mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they | were on | |to cut v1. Sh*t just had to be "left out". Look at SQL CE, it's | |there, | it's on the | |device, there is just no "bridge" to get access via the end user SDK. | |The | native | |SDK have access to it. | | | | | | | |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph | |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:02 PM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | | | | | |Chris, put your hand out and let me slap it J - I want to be able to | |run | offline | |and I mean totally offline. Having to go through the cloud to | |communicate between applications because MS isn't smart enough to |work | |out how to open | a | |channel between apps in a secure way is a sign that they don't get | mobility! | | | | | | | |Don't get me wrong I'm not asking for full access as in the WinMo days | |- | that | |was way to cowboyish. But, MS definitely needs to consider doing | |something similar to (And I'm NOT saying the same) as Android Intents | | | | | | | |Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - Windows Phone | |Development | || +61 412 413 425 | | | |The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not | |the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in | |this | email in | |any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails | |or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own | |and | may | |not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. | | | | | | | |-----Original Message----- | |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh | |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:55 PM | |To: ozDotNet | |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | | | | | |"secure shared data" doesn't belong on a portable device, that can be | |a) | lost, | |stolen or hacked. | | | | | | | |If you want something that is available to use between company apps, | |then | you | |need to have a central repo in the cloud somewhere. Sure you need to | "cache" | |it locally, but it shouldn't be available for each app, if each app | requires the | |same document, then you're doing it wrong. :) | | | | | | | |Sure, the phone needs SQL CE, but even then, it isn't the solution. | | | | | | | |People are just used to the Old WinMo days when you've got FULL |access. | | | | | | | |-----Original Message----- | | | |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy | | | |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:47 PM | | | |To: 'ozDotNet' | | | |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | | | | | |Yep I saw that. I had thought the same too. It was that I was | |referring to | when I | |said "hack a bitmap". | | | |It's not really a good solution or a secure one. And like I said, that | people even | |consider this is a real sign the phone is too limiting but not having | shared data. | | | | | | | |What I am hoping we will see is the implementation of SQL CE 4 on the | |phone as a shared resource, including a shared data storage that | |includes | blobs/files, | |with permissions. Eg. An app can use a password to share files with | |other | apps | |from the same company. Stores could be by company and/or |application, | |and access to would require initial user prompt etc. It is probably | |asking a | lot, but | |really the phone needs secure shared data. | | | | | | | | | | | ||-----Original Message----- | | | ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of .net noobie | | | ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:39 PM | | | ||To: ozDotNet | | | ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | || | | | ||Nick Randolph, made a post on his blog i think where he used an |image | | | ||to | | | |store | | | ||data, which I you could access from different apps, not really a good | | | ||solution I guess, but maybe OK for some situations | | | || | | | ||http://nicksnettravels.builttoroam.com/post/2010/09/29/Windows- |Phone-7 | ||- | | | ||Passing-Data-Between-Applications.aspx | | | || | | | ||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Bill McCarthy <[email protected] | |<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | |wrote: | | | ||> | | | ||> Uhm, not really. Isolated storage is good, but doesn't share data | | | ||> across apps. There's various scenarios such as crm's or customer | | | ||> service based apps where it is desirable to have small apps that | | | ||> share the same core | | | |data | | | ||> (rather than try to cram every feature into the one app them | | | ||> disabling features depending on the user etc). And then there's the | | | ||> entire lack of shared documents issue (other than photos and |videos). | | | ||> There's | | | |absolutely | | | ||> no way (that I know of) to do what should be standard "office" kinds | | | ||> of tasks like automate the creation of a word |document/invoice/quote | | | ||> etc, | | | |and | | | ||> automatically attach it to an email. The more and more I try to use | | | ||> the phone for business the more I think it is designed for stand | | | ||> alone games | | | |etc | | | ||> or only for web based applications where you do that processing off | | | ||> the phone. | | | ||> | | | ||> And yes I know you can hack a bitmap to store your data. That that | ||> is | | | |even | | | ||> thought of, little alone even considered, is sad. | | | ||> | | | ||> | | | ||> |-----Original Message----- | | | ||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kean | | | ||> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:16 PM | | | ||> |To: ozDotNet | | | ||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> | | | | ||> |With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you? | | | ||> | | | | ||> |-----Original Message----- | | | ||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy | | | ||> |Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM | | | ||> |To: 'ozDotNet' | | | ||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> | | | | ||> |Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK. My list | | | ||> |includes, | | | ||> (but not | | | ||> |limited to) is: | | | ||> |- no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself | | | ||> |- no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in | | | ||> |the | | | |user | | | ||> |interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text | ||> |messages) | | | ||> |- no shared data or files | | | ||> | | | | ||> |I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer | ||> |if | | | ||> |you | | | ||> want to | | | ||> |write any app that deals with people. | | | ||> | | | | ||> | | | | ||> ||-----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh | | | ||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM | | | ||> ||To: ozDotNet | | | ||> ||Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||Yeah, they've been saying "it's coming" for years. | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||Bill, | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but | | | ||> ||there is no | | | ||> |way to | | | ||> ||access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in | | | ||> ||the | | | ||> |Native SDK. | | | ||> ||We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest | | | ||> ||"ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD" but as I said, you can't access the |folder. | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||-----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price | | | ||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM | | | ||> ||To: ozDotNet | | | ||> ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||I did see a twitter post (in response to me asking about Zune | ||> ||pass) | | | ||> ||that it | | | ||> |was | | | ||> ||coming, but no timeframe on when. | | | ||> || | | | ||> ||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Simon Reed | | | ||> ||<[email protected] | ||> ||<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||wrote: | | | ||> ||> Speaking of Zune is there a timeline for Zune pass or music | | | ||> ||> coming to | | | ||> |Aus? | | | ||> ||> | | | ||> ||> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bill McCarthy | | | ||> ||> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> |wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | | | ||> ||>> Use Zune on the PC for marketplace ;) | | | ||> ||>> | | | ||> ||>> |-----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||>> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- | | | ||> ||>> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Reed | | | ||> ||>> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 AM | | | ||> ||>> |To: ozDotNet | | | ||> ||>> |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> |Does anyone know if marketplace/downloads are metered |content | | | ||> ||>> |through Telstra I know Telstra One is unmetered and thought | | | ||> ||>> |maybe marketplace | | | ||> ||>> could | | | ||> ||>> |be the same as you can add the cost of apps to the mobile |bill? | | | ||> ||>> |(probably | | | ||> ||>> just | | | ||> ||>> |wishful thinking) | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> |On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Stephen Price | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] |<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||>> |wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | I seem to be averaging about 3Mb per day. I've used | ||> ||>> | 45Mb | | | ||> ||>> |of my 512Mb | | | ||> ||>> | data. I use it for general browsing and dont limit | | | ||> ||>> |anything like | | | ||> ||>> | pictures or anything. I do have it hooked up to wifi at | | | ||> ||>> |home and | | | ||> ||>> at | | | ||> ||>> | work so that would help reduce actual 3G bandwidth |used. | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | 500Mb should be plenty. Its mostly twitter and facebook | | | ||> ||>> | which is | | | ||> ||>> text | | | ||> ||>> |mostly. | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, .net noobie | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] |<mailto:[email protected]> > | |wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | > Stephen, do you have it all setup for getting the | | | ||> ||>> |services and | | | ||> ||>> photos | | | ||> ||>> |etc? | | | ||> ||>> | > do you have any issues with blowing your data limits | | | ||> ||>> |or you | | | ||> ||>> don't | | | ||> ||>> know | | | ||> ||>> |yet? | | | ||> ||>> | > | | | ||> ||>> | > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Stephen Price | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] |<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||>> | > wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> I was on Optus with my iphone. I got the shits with | | | ||> ||>> |them in the | | | ||> ||>> end, | | | ||> ||>> | >> the number of times I'd be in the city and it would | | | ||> ||>> | be giving | | | ||> ||>> me | | | ||> ||>> a | | | ||> ||>> | >> GPRS connection (no 3G) drove me crazy. | | | ||> ||>> | >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> Telstra have finally become competitive with their | | | ||> ||>> | pricing. My | | | ||> ||>> HTC | | | ||> ||>> | >> Mozart is costing me $49 a month with nothing to pay | | | ||> ||>> | for the | | | ||> ||>> phone. | | | ||> ||>> | >> Optus was/is $79 a month. I gave my iphone to my | | | ||> ||>> |daughter (no credit | | | ||> ||>> | >> topups for her for a while she's got a $350 limit). | | | ||> ||>> |It was way | | | ||> ||>> to | | | ||> ||>> much | | | ||> ||>> | >> to break the Optus contract and pay out the phone. | | | ||> ||>> | >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> Love the Mozart, its a nice phone. My only complaint | | | ||> ||>> | is there | | | ||> ||>> doesnt | | | ||> ||>> | >> seem to be a way to make the screen lock after a | | | ||> ||>> | period of | | | ||> ||>> time. | | | ||> ||>> it | | | ||> ||>> | >> locks or it doesnt. iphone could lock after 10 mins. | | | ||> ||>> | >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM, .net noobie | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] |<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | >> > How bad is the Optus network really | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > I really only intend on being in a city, never | | | ||> ||>> |really going | | | ||> ||>> to | | | ||> ||>> be in the | | | ||> ||>> | >> > country | | | ||> ||>> | >> > the optus plans just seem to give alot more then | | | ||> ||>> | telstra on | | | ||> ||>> the | | | ||> ||>> data | | | ||> ||>> | >> > side | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, | ||> ||>> | Twitter, | | | ||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, | | | ||> ||>> | >> > eBay | | | ||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > this could reduce the data your paying for with | ||> ||>> | the | | | ||> ||>> |built in | | | ||> ||>> features | | | ||> ||>> | >> > alot.... | | | ||> ||>> | >> > or is all the data going to actually coming from | | | ||> ||>> | windows live | | | ||> ||>> and | | | ||> ||>> | >> > therefore | | | ||> ||>> | >> > this will not help you reduce the data your |consuming? | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > I would mostly just be using twitter and maybe | | | ||> ||>> |Facebook sometimes if | | | ||> ||>> | >> > someone | | | ||> ||>> | >> > sent me a message or something | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Minimum Monthly Spend $79 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Total Monthly Value Up to $9001 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Included Data 3GB2 or Unlimited BIS + 1GB 2 on | | | ||> ||>> |BlackBerry handsets | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Voicemail deposits & retrievals Unlimited3 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, | ||> ||>> | Twitter, | | | ||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, | | | ||> ||>> | >> > eBay | | | ||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Standard National SMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Standard National MMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Call rate $0.90 per minute | | | ||> ||>> | >> > National Video call rate $1 per minute plus 35c | | | |flagfall | | | ||> ||>> | >> > International Video call rate $1.50 per minute | ||> ||>> | plus | | | ||> ||>> | 35c | | | ||> ||>> flagfall | | | ||> ||>> | >> > 13/1300 call rate $0.90 per minute + $0.35 | ||> ||>> | Flagfall | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Inclusions Standard Aust local, national, GSM | | | ||> ||>> | mobile, video | | | ||> ||>> calls, | | | ||> ||>> | >> > voicemail | | | ||> ||>> | >> > and 13/1300 calls & standard SMS, MMS to Aust |GSM | | | ||> ||>> | mobile, and | | | ||> ||>> | >> > international | | | ||> ||>> | >> > SMS | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > 1 Pay the first Business Complete Ultimate plan | | | ||> ||>> | worth of | | | ||> ||>> included | | | ||> ||>> |value | | | ||> ||>> | >> > each | | | ||> ||>> | >> > billing period after which these services are free | | | ||> ||>> |up to a | | | ||> ||>> maximum | | | ||> ||>> |of | | | ||> ||>> | >> > your | | | ||> ||>> | >> > selected plans "Included Cap Value" per billing | period. | | | ||> ||>> | >> > 2 Mobile Internet Data Value: can be used to | ||> ||>> | access | | | ||> ||>> |services | | | ||> ||>> on | | | ||> ||>> |Optus | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Zoo, | | | ||> ||>> | >> > browsing the Internet from your mobile, as well as | | | ||> ||>> |using your mobile as | | | ||> ||>> | >> > a | | | ||> ||>> | >> > modem. If you elect to take the Business Advantage | | | ||> ||>> |BMB | | | ||> ||>> service | | | ||> ||>> |the plans | | | ||> ||>> | >> > included mobile data value can be shared. Excess | | | ||> ||>> |usage | | | ||> ||>> charges | | | ||> ||>> of | | | ||> ||>> |$0.10 | | | ||> ||>> | >> > per | | | ||> ||>> | >> > MB or part thereof apply (Includes uploads and | | | |downloads). | | | ||> ||>> Data | | | ||> ||>> |usage | | | ||> ||>> | >> > will | | | ||> ||>> | >> > be counted in kilobytes, where 1024KB = 1MB and | | | ||> ||>> |includes both uploads | | | ||> ||>> | >> > and | | | ||> ||>> | >> > downloads. Any unused data allowance cannot be | | | ||> ||>> |rolled | | | ||> over. | | | ||> ||>> |Unlimited | | | ||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 & Browsing: only applies for POP3 | | | ||> ||>> |email | | | ||> ||>> traffic | | | ||> ||>> |and | | | ||> ||>> | >> > internet | | | ||> ||>> | >> > browsing through the BlackBerry Browser and | | | ||> ||>> |specifically | | | ||> ||>> excludes | | | ||> ||>> |use of | | | ||> ||>> | >> > the | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Optus Zoo Browser and International Roaming. | | | ||> ||>> |Customers must have a | | | ||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry or BlackBerry Connect handset to access | | | ||> ||>> |this | | | ||> ||>> service. | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Unlimited | | | ||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 email and browsing is subject to | | | ||> ||>> | the Optus | | | ||> ||>> Mobile | | | ||> ||>> |Fair | | | ||> ||>> | >> > GoTM | | | ||> ||>> | >> > policy. The BlackBerry and RIM families of related | | | ||> ||>> |marks, | | | ||> ||>> images | | | ||> ||>> |and | | | ||> ||>> | >> > symbols | | | ||> ||>> | >> > are the exclusive properties of and trademarks or | | | ||> ||>> |registered trademarks | | | ||> ||>> | >> > of | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Research In Motion Limited used by permission. | | | ||> ||>> | >> > 3 Unlimited Voicemail: Applies to Voicemail | | | ||> ||>> |Deposits and Retrievals, | | | ||> ||>> | >> > diversion charges apply. | | | ||> ||>> | >> > 4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, | | | ||> ||>> |eBay & | | | ||> ||>> |Foursquare: | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Only | | | ||> ||>> | >> > available within Australian and requires | ||> ||>> | compatible | | | ||> |handset. | | | ||> ||>> Use of | | | ||> ||>> | >> > these | | | ||> ||>> | >> > services is separate and does not count towards | | | ||> ||>> |your included "Mobile | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Internet Data". Cannot be used with your Optus | | | ||> ||>> |Mobile | | | ||> ||>> Broadband | | | ||> ||>> |(OMB) or | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and | | | ||> ||>> |excludes use of Facebook | | | ||> ||>> | >> > SMS or | | | ||> ||>> | >> > other social media alert services. These features | | | ||> ||>> |are only | | | ||> ||>> available | | | ||> ||>> |to | | | ||> ||>> | >> > you | | | ||> ||>> | >> > if your handset is compatible with the service. | | | ||> ||>> |Optus Mobile | | | ||> ||>> Fair | | | ||> ||>> |GoTM | | | ||> ||>> | >> > Policy applies. | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front - | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html | |<http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - | | | ||> ||>> |Windows | | | ||> ||>> Phone | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Development | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | +61 412 413 425 | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> The information contained in this email is | | | ||> ||>> | confidential. If | | | ||> ||>> you are | | | ||> ||>> |not | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or | | | ||> ||>> |use the information in | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> this | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> email in any way. Built To Roam does not | ||> ||>> | guarantee | | | ||> ||>> |the | | | ||> ||>> integrity | | | ||> ||>> |of any | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> emails or attached files. The views or opinions | | | ||> ||>> |expressed | | | ||> ||>> are | | | ||> ||>> the | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> author's | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of | | | ||> ||>> | Built To | | | ||> ||>> Roam. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of Chris Walsh | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> I am, but really depends on if you want an | | | ||> ||>> | Australian | | | ||> ||>> warranty | | | ||> ||>> |etc... | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> If | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> you purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't | | | ||> ||>> |have an AU warranty. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> I'd suggest getting it outright via Telstra. Or | | | ||> ||>> |if you want | | | ||> ||>> a | | | ||> ||>> plan, | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> get | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> it on via Telstra, free on a $49 plan, and the | | | ||> ||>> | phones are | | | ||> ||>> unlocked | | | ||> ||>> |by | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> default. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of .net noobie | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:11 PM | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is | | | ||> ||>> |best model | | | ||> ||>> to | | | ||> ||>> get? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] |<mailto:[email protected]> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>> http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone- | |<http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone-> | | | ||> ||>> |categories/smartphones/windows/window | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>> s-phone.html?order=price&dir=asc | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh | | | ||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Really depends on what network you're wanting | ||> ||>> | to | | | ||> ||>> |use it | | | ||> ||>> on. | | | ||> ||>> If | | | ||> ||>> |its | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use | | | ||> ||>> |the 850Mhz | | | ||> ||>> 3G | | | ||> ||>> |band, | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> the | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Samsung Focus & the HTC Surround. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the | | | ||> ||>> |2100Mhz & 900Mhz 3G | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> bands, so you're pretty much set on 7 out of | ||> ||>> | the | | | ||> ||>> |9 launch devices | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> support | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> those bands. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is | ||> ||>> | the | | | ||> ||>> |Dell | | | ||> ||>> Venue | | | ||> ||>> |Pro, but | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> it | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla | ||> ||>> | Glass, | | | ||> ||>> |AMOLED screen, | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> expansive | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> memory & portrait slider. | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> -----Original Message----- | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> From: [email protected] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On | ||> ||>> | Behalf | | | ||> ||>> |Of .net noobie | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> To: [email protected] | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 | | | ||> ||>> |Handset/device outright | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> without | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> a plan? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Telstra are selling them I think but there | ||> ||>> | price | | | ||> ||>> |is pretty | | | ||> ||>> high | | | ||> ||>> |and | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> only have 2 phones | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright- | |<http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright-> | | | ||> ||>> |buy-prices | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> -for-windows-phone-7-handsets/ | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> What do people think about buying a handset | ||> ||>> | from | | | ||> ||>> |overseas | | | ||> ||>> to | | | ||> ||>> |try and | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> get | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> a better price? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> e.g. AT&T are selling phones for 199.99 USD, | ||> ||>> | but | | | ||> ||>> |I don't | | | ||> ||>> know | | | ||> ||>> |the | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> details as in it this is on some kind of plan | ||> ||>> | or | | | ||> ||>> |just the | | | ||> ||>> handset | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> outright? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> or if the handset will be locked to AT&T etc... | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> I like the look of the "Samsung Omnia 7" from | ||> ||>> | Optus | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> the The "HTC Mozart", has a better camera 8 | ||> ||>> | Mega | | | ||> ||>> | Pixel | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> what models do people think is best and why? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> in the US there is a "Samsung Focus" which | | | ||> ||>> | people seem to | | | ||> ||>> like | | | ||> ||>> |a lot, | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> is | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> the "Samsung Omnia 7" basically the | | | ||> ||>> |same/Australian | | | ||> ||>> version? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> Is there going to be any advantage to getting a | | | ||> ||>> | phone on a | | | ||> ||>> plan, | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> rather | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> then getting a handset and putting in my own | ||> ||>> | Sim | | | |card? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> e.g. will the phone company have any extra | | | ||> ||>> | features I will | | | ||> ||>> not | | | ||> ||>> |get if | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> I | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> just put in my own Sim card? | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> these are/seem to be the options for Australian | | | ||> ||>> |handsets | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en- | |<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-> | | | ||> ||>> |au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=al | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> l as I said above I like the "Samsung Omnia 7" | | | ||> ||>> |so any | | | ||> ||>> comments | | | ||> ||>> |on why | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> I should or should not choose a different model | | | ||> ||>> |would be | | | ||> ||>> great | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> thanks noobie | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >>> | | | ||> ||>> | >> >> | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | >> > | | | ||> ||>> | > | | | ||> ||>> | > | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | | | | ||> ||>> | | | ||> ||>> | | | ||> ||> | | | ||> ||> | | | ||> | | | ||> | | | || | | | | | | | | | | | |
