Yep !!!
|-----Original Message-----
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:23 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|Reality check: I think that those in the bush, on a train/bus (actually any
metal
|structure) etc might disagree. The reality is that most people are semi-
|connected. Apps should not be built with the assumption that you'll always
be
|online, they should be built with the assumption that you're offline unless
you
|need to be.
|
|
|
|w.r.t. interapp comms - I'm thinking more along the lines that Bill was
which is
|data sharing, rather than real time comms. The issue is that MS are trying
to
|drag us kicking and screaming into using the cloud for stuff that should be
|enabled on device - that's what I mean about not getting mobility. Don't
get
|me wrong, I look around at the other platforms and I truly believe that WP7
is
|the beginning of great things in the mobile space for MS. They just need to
back
|it up with an awesome "update" that fixes all the gaping holes J
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:13 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Hahaha.
|
|
|
|Slap away, sure, there are offline scenarios BUT, we live in a connected
world
|people. Let's start acting like it :P
|
|
|
|It's hard to communicate between apps when there are no multitasking
|scenarios, socket access blah blah.
|
|
|
|I'm sure they "get" mobility, but as most of us know the timelines they
were on
|to cut v1. Sh*t just had to be "left out". Look at SQL CE, it's there,
it's on the
|device, there is just no "bridge" to get access via the end user SDK. The
native
|SDK have access to it.
|
|
|
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 2:02 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Chris, put your hand out and let me slap it J - I want to be able to run
offline
|and I mean totally offline. Having to go through the cloud to communicate
|between applications because MS isn't smart enough to work out how to open
a
|channel between apps in a secure way is a sign that they don't get
mobility!
|
|
|
|Don't get me wrong I'm not asking for full access as in the WinMo days -
that
|was way to cowboyish. But, MS definitely needs to consider doing something
|similar to (And I'm NOT saying the same) as Android Intents
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:55 PM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|"secure shared data" doesn't belong on a portable device, that can be a)
lost,
|stolen or hacked.
|
|
|
|If you want something that is available to use between company apps, then
you
|need to have a central repo in the cloud somewhere. Sure you need to
"cache"
|it locally, but it shouldn't be available for each app, if each app
requires the
|same document, then you're doing it wrong. :)
|
|
|
|Sure, the phone needs SQL CE, but even then, it isn't the solution.
|
|
|
|People are just used to the Old WinMo days when you've got FULL access.
|
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|
|From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|
|Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:47 PM
|
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|
|Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
|
|
|Yep I saw that. I had thought the same too. It was that I was referring to
when I
|said "hack a bitmap".
|
|It's not really a good solution or a secure one. And like I said, that
people even
|consider this is a real sign the phone is too limiting but not having
shared data.
|
|
|
|What I am hoping we will see is the implementation of SQL CE 4 on the phone
|as a shared resource, including a shared data storage that includes
blobs/files,
|with permissions. Eg. An app can use a password to share files with other
apps
|from the same company. Stores could be by company and/or application, and
|access to would require initial user prompt etc. It is probably asking a
lot, but
|really the phone needs secure shared data.
|
|
|
|
|
||-----Original Message-----
|
||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||[email protected]] On Behalf Of .net noobie
|
||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:39 PM
|
||To: ozDotNet
|
||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||
|
||Nick Randolph, made a post on his blog i think where he used an image
|
||to
|
|store
|
||data, which I you could access from different apps, not really a good
|
||solution I guess, but maybe OK for some situations
|
||
|
||http://nicksnettravels.builttoroam.com/post/2010/09/29/Windows-Phone-7-
|
||Passing-Data-Between-Applications.aspx
|
||
|
||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Bill McCarthy <[email protected]
|<mailto:[email protected]> >
|
|wrote:
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||>
|
||> Uhm, not really. Isolated storage is good, but doesn't share data
|
||> across apps. There's various scenarios such as crm's or customer
|
||> service based apps where it is desirable to have small apps that
|
||> share the same core
|
|data
|
||> (rather than try to cram every feature into the one app them
|
||> disabling features depending on the user etc). And then there's the
|
||> entire lack of shared documents issue (other than photos and videos).
|
||> There's
|
|absolutely
|
||> no way (that I know of) to do what should be standard "office" kinds
|
||> of tasks like automate the creation of a word document/invoice/quote
|
||> etc,
|
|and
|
||> automatically attach it to an email. The more and more I try to use
|
||> the phone for business the more I think it is designed for stand
|
||> alone games
|
|etc
|
||> or only for web based applications where you do that processing off
|
||> the phone.
|
||>
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||> And yes I know you can hack a bitmap to store your data. That that is
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|even
|
||> thought of, little alone even considered, is sad.
|
||>
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||>
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||> |-----Original Message-----
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||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kean
|
||> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 1:16 PM
|
||> |To: ozDotNet
|
||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> |
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||> |With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you?
|
||> |
|
||> |-----Original Message-----
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||> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|
||> |Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM
|
||> |To: 'ozDotNet'
|
||> |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
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||> |
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||> |Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK. My list
|
||> |includes,
|
||> (but not
|
||> |limited to) is:
|
||> |- no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself
|
||> |- no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in
|
||> |the
|
|user
|
||> |interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text messages)
|
||> |- no shared data or files
|
||> |
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||> |I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer if
|
||> |you
|
||> want to
|
||> |write any app that deals with people.
|
||> |
|
||> |
|
||> ||-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|
||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM
|
||> ||To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||
|
||> ||Yeah, they've been saying "it's coming" for years.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||Bill,
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||> ||
|
||> ||For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but
|
||> ||there is no
|
||> |way to
|
||> ||access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in
|
||> ||the
|
||> |Native SDK.
|
||> ||We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest
|
||> ||"ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD" but as I said, you can't access the folder.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
|
||> ||Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM
|
||> ||To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||
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||> ||I did see a twitter post (in response to me asking about Zune pass)
|
||> ||that it
|
||> |was
|
||> ||coming, but no timeframe on when.
|
||> ||
|
||> ||On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Simon Reed
|
||> ||<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||wrote:
|
||> ||> Speaking of Zune is there a timeline for Zune pass or music
|
||> ||> coming to
|
||> |Aus?
|
||> ||>
|
||> ||> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bill McCarthy
|
||> ||> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> |wrote:
|
||> ||>>
|
||> ||>> Use Zune on the PC for marketplace ;)
|
||> ||>>
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||> ||>> |-----Original Message-----
|
||> ||>> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet-
|
||> ||>> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Reed
|
||> ||>> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 AM
|
||> ||>> |To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||>> |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |Does anyone know if marketplace/downloads are metered content
|
||> ||>> |through Telstra I know Telstra One is unmetered and thought
|
||> ||>> |maybe marketplace
|
||> ||>> could
|
||> ||>> |be the same as you can add the cost of apps to the mobile bill?
|
||> ||>> |(probably
|
||> ||>> just
|
||> ||>> |wishful thinking)
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Stephen Price
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> |wrote:
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||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | I seem to be averaging about 3Mb per day. I've used 45Mb
|
||> ||>> |of my 512Mb
|
||> ||>> | data. I use it for general browsing and dont limit
|
||> ||>> |anything like
|
||> ||>> | pictures or anything. I do have it hooked up to wifi at
|
||> ||>> |home and
|
||> ||>> at
|
||> ||>> | work so that would help reduce actual 3G bandwidth used.
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | 500Mb should be plenty. Its mostly twitter and facebook
|
||> ||>> | which is
|
||> ||>> text
|
||> ||>> |mostly.
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> |
|
||> ||>> | On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, .net noobie
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|wrote:
|
||> ||>> | > Stephen, do you have it all setup for getting the
|
||> ||>> |services and
|
||> ||>> photos
|
||> ||>> |etc?
|
||> ||>> | > do you have any issues with blowing your data limits
|
||> ||>> |or you
|
||> ||>> don't
|
||> ||>> know
|
||> ||>> |yet?
|
||> ||>> | >
|
||> ||>> | > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Stephen Price
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | > wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> I was on Optus with my iphone. I got the shits with
|
||> ||>> |them in the
|
||> ||>> end,
|
||> ||>> | >> the number of times I'd be in the city and it would
|
||> ||>> | be giving
|
||> ||>> me
|
||> ||>> a
|
||> ||>> | >> GPRS connection (no 3G) drove me crazy.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> Telstra have finally become competitive with their
|
||> ||>> | pricing. My
|
||> ||>> HTC
|
||> ||>> | >> Mozart is costing me $49 a month with nothing to pay
|
||> ||>> | for the
|
||> ||>> phone.
|
||> ||>> | >> Optus was/is $79 a month. I gave my iphone to my
|
||> ||>> |daughter (no credit
|
||> ||>> | >> topups for her for a while she's got a $350 limit).
|
||> ||>> |It was way
|
||> ||>> to
|
||> ||>> much
|
||> ||>> | >> to break the Optus contract and pay out the phone.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> Love the Mozart, its a nice phone. My only complaint
|
||> ||>> | is there
|
||> ||>> doesnt
|
||> ||>> | >> seem to be a way to make the screen lock after a
|
||> ||>> | period of
|
||> ||>> time.
|
||> ||>> it
|
||> ||>> | >> locks or it doesnt. iphone could lock after 10 mins.
|
||> ||>> | >>
|
||> ||>> | >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM, .net noobie
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | >> wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >> > How bad is the Optus network really
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > I really only intend on being in a city, never
|
||> ||>> |really going
|
||> ||>> to
|
||> ||>> be in the
|
||> ||>> | >> > country
|
||> ||>> | >> > the optus plans just seem to give alot more then
|
||> ||>> | telstra on
|
||> ||>> the
|
||> ||>> data
|
||> ||>> | >> > side
|
||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter,
|
||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> | >> > eBay
|
||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4
|
||> ||>> | >> > this could reduce the data your paying for with the
|
||> ||>> |built in
|
||> ||>> features
|
||> ||>> | >> > alot....
|
||> ||>> | >> > or is all the data going to actually coming from
|
||> ||>> | windows live
|
||> ||>> and
|
||> ||>> | >> > therefore
|
||> ||>> | >> > this will not help you reduce the data your consuming?
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > I would mostly just be using twitter and maybe
|
||> ||>> |Facebook sometimes if
|
||> ||>> | >> > someone
|
||> ||>> | >> > sent me a message or something
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > Minimum Monthly Spend $79
|
||> ||>> | >> > Total Monthly Value Up to $9001
|
||> ||>> | >> > Included Data 3GB2 or Unlimited BIS + 1GB 2 on
|
||> ||>> |BlackBerry handsets
|
||> ||>> | >> > Voicemail deposits & retrievals Unlimited3
|
||> ||>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter,
|
||> ||>> |LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> | >> > eBay
|
||> ||>> | >> > and Foursquare4
|
||> ||>> | >> > Standard National SMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > Standard National MMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > Call rate $0.90 per minute
|
||> ||>> | >> > National Video call rate $1 per minute plus 35c
|
|flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > International Video call rate $1.50 per minute plus
|
||> ||>> | 35c
|
||> ||>> flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > 13/1300 call rate $0.90 per minute + $0.35 Flagfall
|
||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call
|
||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB
|
||> ||>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call
|
||> ||>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB
|
||> ||>> | >> > Inclusions Standard Aust local, national, GSM
|
||> ||>> | mobile, video
|
||> ||>> calls,
|
||> ||>> | >> > voicemail
|
||> ||>> | >> > and 13/1300 calls & standard SMS, MMS to Aust GSM
|
||> ||>> | mobile, and
|
||> ||>> | >> > international
|
||> ||>> | >> > SMS
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > 1 Pay the first Business Complete Ultimate plan
|
||> ||>> | worth of
|
||> ||>> included
|
||> ||>> |value
|
||> ||>> | >> > each
|
||> ||>> | >> > billing period after which these services are free
|
||> ||>> |up to a
|
||> ||>> maximum
|
||> ||>> |of
|
||> ||>> | >> > your
|
||> ||>> | >> > selected plans "Included Cap Value" per billing
period.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 2 Mobile Internet Data Value: can be used to access
|
||> ||>> |services
|
||> ||>> on
|
||> ||>> |Optus
|
||> ||>> | >> > Zoo,
|
||> ||>> | >> > browsing the Internet from your mobile, as well as
|
||> ||>> |using your mobile as
|
||> ||>> | >> > a
|
||> ||>> | >> > modem. If you elect to take the Business Advantage
|
||> ||>> |BMB
|
||> ||>> service
|
||> ||>> |the plans
|
||> ||>> | >> > included mobile data value can be shared. Excess
|
||> ||>> |usage
|
||> ||>> charges
|
||> ||>> of
|
||> ||>> |$0.10
|
||> ||>> | >> > per
|
||> ||>> | >> > MB or part thereof apply (Includes uploads and
|
|downloads).
|
||> ||>> Data
|
||> ||>> |usage
|
||> ||>> | >> > will
|
||> ||>> | >> > be counted in kilobytes, where 1024KB = 1MB and
|
||> ||>> |includes both uploads
|
||> ||>> | >> > and
|
||> ||>> | >> > downloads. Any unused data allowance cannot be
|
||> ||>> |rolled
|
||> over.
|
||> ||>> |Unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 & Browsing: only applies for POP3
|
||> ||>> |email
|
||> ||>> traffic
|
||> ||>> |and
|
||> ||>> | >> > internet
|
||> ||>> | >> > browsing through the BlackBerry Browser and
|
||> ||>> |specifically
|
||> ||>> excludes
|
||> ||>> |use of
|
||> ||>> | >> > the
|
||> ||>> | >> > Optus Zoo Browser and International Roaming.
|
||> ||>> |Customers must have a
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry or BlackBerry Connect handset to access
|
||> ||>> |this
|
||> ||>> service.
|
||> ||>> | >> > Unlimited
|
||> ||>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 email and browsing is subject to
|
||> ||>> | the Optus
|
||> ||>> Mobile
|
||> ||>> |Fair
|
||> ||>> | >> > GoTM
|
||> ||>> | >> > policy. The BlackBerry and RIM families of related
|
||> ||>> |marks,
|
||> ||>> images
|
||> ||>> |and
|
||> ||>> | >> > symbols
|
||> ||>> | >> > are the exclusive properties of and trademarks or
|
||> ||>> |registered trademarks
|
||> ||>> | >> > of
|
||> ||>> | >> > Research In Motion Limited used by permission.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 3 Unlimited Voicemail: Applies to Voicemail
|
||> ||>> |Deposits and Retrievals,
|
||> ||>> | >> > diversion charges apply.
|
||> ||>> | >> > 4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace,
|
||> ||>> |eBay &
|
||> ||>> |Foursquare:
|
||> ||>> | >> > Only
|
||> ||>> | >> > available within Australian and requires compatible
|
||> |handset.
|
||> ||>> Use of
|
||> ||>> | >> > these
|
||> ||>> | >> > services is separate and does not count towards
|
||> ||>> |your included "Mobile
|
||> ||>> | >> > Internet Data". Cannot be used with your Optus
|
||> ||>> |Mobile
|
||> ||>> Broadband
|
||> ||>> |(OMB) or
|
||> ||>> | >> > Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and
|
||> ||>> |excludes use of Facebook
|
||> ||>> | >> > SMS or
|
||> ||>> | >> > other social media alert services. These features
|
||> ||>> |are only
|
||> ||>> available
|
||> ||>> |to
|
||> ||>> | >> > you
|
||> ||>> | >> > if your handset is compatible with the service.
|
||> ||>> |Optus Mobile
|
||> ||>> Fair
|
||> ||>> |GoTM
|
||> ||>> | >> > Policy applies.
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph
|
||> ||>> |<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
|
||> ||>> | >> > wrote:
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front -
|
||> ||>> | >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html
|<http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html>
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP -
|
||> ||>> |Windows
|
||> ||>> Phone
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Development
|
||> ||>> | >> >> | +61 412 413 425
|
||> ||>> | >> >> The information contained in this email is
|
||> ||>> | confidential. If
|
||> ||>> you are
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||> ||>> |not
|
||> ||>> | >> >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or
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||> ||>> |use the information in
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||> ||>> | >> >> this
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||> ||>> |the
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||> ||>> |of any
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||> ||>> | >> >> emails or attached files. The views or opinions
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||> ||>> |expressed
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||> ||>> are
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||> ||>> the
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||> ||>> | >> >> author's
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||> ||>> | >> >> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of
|
||> ||>> | Built To
|
||> ||>> Roam.
|
||> ||>> | >> >>
|
||> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message-----
|
||> ||>> | >> >> From: [email protected]
|
||> ||>> | >> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
|
||> ||>> | >> >> On Behalf Of Chris Walsh
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM
|
||> ||>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet
|
||> ||>> | >> >> Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
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||> ||>> | >> >> -----Original Message-----
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|<http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone->
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||> ||>> | >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM
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||> ||>> | >> >>>> Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
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|<http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright->
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