Worse, in the baseball umpiring exam I mentioned, someone said to me “isn’t 
that what you’d get if you just asked a whole lot of fans about the rules 
rather than asking umpires?”

There’s probably something important about that. How does it know which of the 
material it was trained on is valid?

Regards,

Greg

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Subject: Re: AI

"old system views"

That makes me wonder if it has any way of differentiating between something it 
found from a decade ago to more recent data.

Mike
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 11:43 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, 
<ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>> wrote:
Hi Tom,

For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to help 
someone who’s new to an area.

For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if I ask 
it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old deprecated views 
instead of the current system views (that have been around for a decade), and 
often does things in a convoluted way.

What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand acronyms, 
etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it go generate 
some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test data is fairly 
believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for Chinese, it does 
pick common Chinese family names in the test output. That’s pretty impressive.

It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you 
simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you explain 
what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily using it to 
explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of) document some code.

But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25 question 
baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident sounding, but 40% 
correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions that it got right, are 
things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet for simpler questions, it 
would say that something legal is illegal.

It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It will be 
part of our futures.

Regards,

Greg

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Subject: AI

Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools for a 
long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming up in 
march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of the 
panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30% on 
development effort.

Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. My 
personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having spent time 
with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over inflated.

I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant benefit and 
that I may be just out of touch or not aware.

Thanks,
Tom
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